($27) - TT MP....L4 with 15bb's

[bluefeet]

~very quiet, tight table~

note the equality in stacks, still 9-handed, L4

Seat 1: (1550 in chips)
Seat 2: (2065 in chips)
Seat 3: (1175 in chips)
Seat 4: (2375 in chips)
Seat 5: (790 in chips)
bluefeet (1545 in chips)
Seat 7: (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: (1100 in chips)

Seat 9: posts small blind 50
Seat 1: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [Th Ts]
4 folds
bluefeet: ??
CO, Button, and blinds behind

I find these situations interesting. Because what is often overlooked by some, is "the plan" after this decision.

If your answer is anything other than fold or push...

How do you react to a push from behind?

How do you react to a raise/reraise from behind?
--with post-flop position
--without post-flop position

What is your plan for the flop with...one caller say?
--with post-flop position
--without post-flop position

[bones]

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I find these situations interesting. Because what is often overlooked by some, is "the plan" after this decision.

If your answer is anything other than fold or push...

How do you react to a push from behind?

How do you react to a raise/reraise from behind?
--with post-flop position
--without post-flop position

What is your plan for the flop with...one caller say?
--with post-flop position
--without post-flop position

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So, you're looking for an outline on how to play poker?

I'd make it 250-275 preflop, fold to a push (most of the time).

As for the other stuff, there are so many other factors that go into each of those decisions. Hands like these are what separate good players from decent players and long-term winners from smallish winners.

[bluefeet]

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So, you're looking for an outline on how to play poker?

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lol...no, that wasn't the purpose at all. Personally, I don't have an issue with this hand, or how it played out (I'll post it later - I suspect I'd get a "standard" reply -- or maybe not).

A slow Saturday night, thought I'd put something out there that might be thought provoking for some.

We see a lot of posts from folks facing somewhat dicey situations like this...from playing a strong hand too weak - to playing it a tad too strong ("committed") setting themselves up for unnecessary ruin post-flop - to playing it WAY too fast as an alternative to having failed to formulate a plan.

Homework assignments suck - I'll conceed that perhaps this one contained to many "questions". Participation is optional of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

~peace

[pooh74]

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I find these situations interesting. Because what is often overlooked by some, is "the plan" after this decision.

If your answer is anything other than fold or push...

How do you react to a push from behind?

How do you react to a raise/reraise from behind?
--with post-flop position
--without post-flop position

What is your plan for the flop with...one caller say?
--with post-flop position
--without post-flop position

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So, you're looking for an outline on how to play poker?

I'd make it 250-275 preflop, fold to a push (most of the time).

As for the other stuff, there are so many other factors that go into each of those decisions. Hands like these are what separate good players from decent players and long-term winners from smallish winners.

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yeah, ok. Ill try and be gentler. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

What he said...lol.

But really, I'd raise to 250 here and not plan on calling a push from behind. If there were a small stack behind I would but there are none. You also said it was a quiet table so I assume there are no volatile players who might reraise with air so where my call of their reraise "could" be considered correct.


Now, if I am called PF, Ill consider things like where I was called from. If I was called from the blinds I might be more likely to make a CB even if overs come on the flop. If I am called by a player who has position on me, I am less likely to make a probe bet on a scary flop. If flop comes babies I will bet out strong OOP most likely.

I think you knnow all of this, its an awkward hand all around given your position, stregnth of your hand, stack sizes, and the blinds.

hope this is somewhat helpfull. I agree with what bones said obviously...just wanted to elaborate.

[cha59]

I'd make a normal raise (300) and see what happens. You have a strong hand.

There are way too many variables to comment on much other than that without writing a book.

[bluefeet]

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I'd make a normal raise (300) and see what happens. You have a strong hand.

There are way too many variables to comment on much other than that without writing a book.

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Alright dammit! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

...kind of hinted to my boredom. Standard'ish raise, button call, Ace on flop, put on the breaks, yadayadayada.

Haven't been posting many hands lately - you can see why. I'm blessed w/ a very boring game [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

~thee end