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Old 09-11-2005, 01:07 AM
Exitonly Exitonly is offline
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

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You have too much hand to fold here.

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I don't easily give credit for a made flush here.. i'd think i'm most likely vs two over's and a diamond.. or an overzealous 88/99.. though imagine it could be JJ too.

just did a little bit of pokerstove and i got you ahead of his range there... so i think i like it
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

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Let mw ask you this instead since we seem to agree on the raisers range, what hands do you see utg+1 coldcalling in this spot that he will now laydown?




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Good question. 99/JJ w/diamond. AQ with Q of diamonds and maybe AK with K of diamonds. Also any overpair with no diamonds.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

This hand looks a little familiar... I like checking the flop too. As it is, I don't think you can get away from it the way you played it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:30 AM
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oh god this must bring up some bad memories.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

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This hand looks a little familiar... I like checking the flop too. As it is, I don't think you can get away from it the way you played it.

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I thought the same thing before I even posted it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

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oh god this must bring up some bad memories.

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Meh, I'm pretty much over it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

How weak-tight do you think just pushing the flop is? Makes it clear to villains that you're not just making a continuation bet with a missed AK and you've made the odds for drawing to the flush as bad as possible. It's difficult to call with out the nut draw and maybe you get a hand like JJ without a diamond to lay. If you check-raise villains invest more into the pot and are less likely to fold their draws which are likely ahead of yours and you're probably getting it all-in anyway.
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:21 AM
Rekwob Rekwob is offline
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

pot limit

i think check raising is best here since you can check raise all in and actually put some pressure on the other players (and get away from a bet and raise), whereas your cont. bet doesnt necessarily mean you like your hand and by the time someones raised you cant fold it because you're 50-50 or ahead more than enough to get it in there
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: WCOOP 500 PLHE Bustout Hand

I prob. fold to the reraise, the cold caller scares me, because he either has the Ace of diamonds or a monster, and either way if he has a monster, utg3 prob. has the Ad or the monster, so I think you have to lay it down here.
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