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Old 10-19-2004, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: commerce hand

Would he bet into a wide field with just a flushdraw like KT/QT/T9 – I wouldn’t think so as better to keep people around or chkrs. Would he play that way with TT/88 –no, I think he’d underbet the pot on the turn. But he’s anal so he’s got a good hand – gotta be 2 pair or TP. For 2pair, If it’s T8 or A8 you’re screwed, but again I think those hands bet the turn less to keep you around or show more weakness. So AT of spades or hearts. For TP, figure AK would have raised preflop, so AQ/AJ possible. But that would be ballsy to lead that into 7 limpers.

So he’s got AT of hearts or spades. You’re representing at least the flush, and he’s getting 2.7:1 on a call. So does this tight/anal player think you're bluffing at least 40% of the time; well, probably not. so well played.

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Old 10-19-2004, 03:41 PM
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i play in the 10-20nl at commerce from time to time, (its generally not as good as the 5-10 at bike or 5-5 at hollywood)

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How deep do you play?
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:44 PM
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i always buy in for exactly 100x the BB in any game i play. i have my reasons. i will even filter out of a game if im too deep compared to the victems and their playing styles and filter back in for 100x the BB.
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:54 PM
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OK, that's what I figured. If you're playing $500-1000, I can imagine those games being better. But the Commerce 10-20 game is consistently great and plays much, much deeper than that.
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:03 PM
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Default i dont understand what you\'re saying.

I buy in for 2k and have 2k at least for the start of every deal. many players have upwards of 10k in that game but it has no effect on me. i will only keep that much on the table if the victem is loose passive. if hes loose aggressive i dont need to play huge pots with him i'd rather play a series of big pots. in that game there used to be no less than 3 world class spots at any time, is it still hosted bt Jim? scotty, bobby, fisherman and limon played regularly...i can GUARANTEE you you will never see a top notch player in ANY spot at HP or the bike thats why i havent played at commerce in over a year.
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:49 PM
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I buy in for 2k and have 2k at least for the start of every deal. many players have upwards of 10k in that game but it has no effect on me.

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OK, so you're buying in for $500/$1000/$2000 in the three games. Got it. Still, what I'm saying is that if you're going to play a 2k stack, I can believe that you can find better games elsewhere. If you're going to play 5k or more, the 10-20 can provide multiple stacks of that depth with plenty of action. But maybe I'm wrong - how deep do those 5/5 and 5/10 games typically get?

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in that game there used to be no less than 3 world class spots at any time, is it still hosted bt Jim? scotty, bobby, fisherman and limon played regularly...

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Jim still hosts the game. Scotty plays often. Bobby I haven't seen too much when I've played (wkends mostly), but he apparently still plays it a lot. Fisherman Greg I've seen a lot. Limon I dunno if I've played with or not. Doug, Jake, Gabe and a couple of other regulars are also very good. But even with all those guys, the game has been great. They often get 3 or 4 full games going on weekend nights. Lots of action to go around.

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i can GUARANTEE you you will never see a top notch player in ANY spot at HP or the bike thats why i havent played at commerce in over a year.

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Fair enough. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:11 PM
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Jim still hosts the game.

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huh? this is a casino game, right?
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:11 PM
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the 5-5 game at hp gets ridiculously deep at times, theres a couple of armenian "importers" and a couple of afroamerican "rap artists" that buy in for 10k or more for no apparent reason. i chop them down 1k at a time and if my stack gets over 3k i filter back through. the 5-10 at the bike is still a iddy bidy lil baby. no one ever has more than 5k in my experience. ave stack is 1k.
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:27 PM
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Did not realize the HP game played that big. Will have to give it a try next time I head down there. Thx.
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Old 10-19-2004, 08:43 PM
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Diablo, I'd appreciate your take on the play, specifically the flop check/call.
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