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Old 12-29-2005, 03:39 AM
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Default OESD + Flush draw turn decision

Villian seems to be LAG showing 54/14/2.1 over 35 hands

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UTG+1 ($12.75)
UTG+2 ($35.25)
MP1 ($53.50)
MP2 ($58.25)
MP3 ($18.75)
CO ($43.75)
Hero ($48.25)
SB ($20.75)
BB ($47.75)
UTG ($14.00)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, UTG+2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $1</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, UTG+1 calls $9.50, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $19</font>, Hero calls $9, UTG+1 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($55.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 bet $28 Hero???


Should I have pushed the flop after being raised or is a call better? When the board pairs I may be drawing dead so is it time to get out or do I roll the dice on my draws?
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw turn decision

there's enough dead money on the flop to push and be perfectly happy with it (precisely because you can get into this kind of situation on the turn. As played ...it sucks, but I probably fold
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw turn decision

I push out of tilt

This will surprise you:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 68.4185 % 68.01% 00.46% { Td8d }
Hand 2: 31.5815 % 31.15% 00.46% { Ac5c }</pre><hr />
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw turn decision

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I push out of tilt

This will surprise you:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 68.4185 % 68.01% 00.46% { Td8d }
Hand 2: 31.5815 % 31.15% 00.46% { Ac5c }</pre><hr />

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that's on the flop O_o
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:18 AM
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haha whoops no wonder it surprised me
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:20 AM
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OK the real numbers are more reasonable
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Board: 7d 5d 5h 6h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 29.5496 % 29.72% 00.00% { Td8d }
Hand 2: 70.4504 % 70.86% 00.00% { Ac5c }

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borderline fold, if you think you have implied odds if you hit you can call
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:21 AM
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push flop and talk trash after you hit.
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:23 AM
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you can see why you want the money in on the flop at least...
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:23 AM
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Yeah on the flop my hand is in good shape against most possible holdings. Right now I'm trying to learn how to better play hands like this. In the past my approach has generally been to call the flop and turn if the odds look good. My plan should be to take a free card on the turn if my flop bet is called and they check to me on a blank right? Should I generally just push the flop immediately and skip the $10 bet in this case?
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:24 AM
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Yeah on the flop my hand is in good shape against most possible holdings. Right now I'm trying to learn how to better play hands like this. In the past my approach has generally been to call the flop and turn if the odds look good. My plan should be to take a free card on the turn if my flop bet is called and they check to me on a blank right?

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with a draw that good I pot the flop and the turn
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