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  #31  
Old 06-21-2005, 03:13 PM
mach3 mach3 is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

A couple more pages of "will someone PM me DERB's name" and "he's just a statistical outlier" arguments, and we'll have a full blown "DERB2 - A Month Later" thread.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:11 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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The question isn't what are his overall stats. The question is what are his results since May 16th.

- Andrew

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according to the HH datamining service @ pokerhandhistories his resuts during may are:

hands: 4085
VPIP: 29.99
PFR: 18.14
WSD: 45.78%
W$SD: 48.64% (keys are here to his play imo since he got a massive increase in WSD without dropping W$SD by a proportional amount...my #s are like 32% and 58% respectively)

W$WSF: 40.65% (this is also huge, mine is 42% and he plays almost 2x as many hands)

and he never folds his blinds...he folds bb to steal 28.74% of the time over this sample.

results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)

-Barron
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:12 PM
sammy_g sammy_g is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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it has been posted on the forums if you are willing to search

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It's even been posted in this thread.
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:04 PM
mach3 mach3 is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

Is DERB a multitabler? I just assumed he was - but looking at the post regarding hand histories above, he played just 4k hands in May.
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:12 PM
YoureToast YoureToast is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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I don't understand your point. Yes, their hand range is wider if they are looser preflop, but you simply adjust for that fact postflop and <b> make the optimal play, given their expanded hand range. </b> They are making mistakes preflop, and I don't see how they can make up for that fact simply because you are unused to making the adjustment for their looseness. <b>Especially since there are plenty of loose players preflop in these games so you indeed are used to adjusting for preflop looseness</b>....

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My point is that it is much more difficult to make a reasonable guess at what the optimal play is if the range of hands is wider. Its a fairly simple concept. The fact that I kill loose players that are bad postflop helps me little when attempting to assess the optimal play against a loose player who plays very well postflop. If I have some time, I'll try to post some actual hands that illustrate my point a little better.
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:56 PM
joes28 joes28 is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

Here is my stats on the derb in question:

Lojzka~{{H 93,205 - V 30 - R 17 - NF 21 - ag 2.0 ASB 37 - FSB 70 - FBB 30 - FBB-HU 24 WSD 41 - W$SD 50 - WF-T 3 - WF-R 3 CR 3 - W $144,657 - WR 3 - LS 04/29/2005}}>

these stats are taken from a notefile that was given to me by my rakeback site. I dont know if they are filtered for shorthanded or not
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:42 PM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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can someone PM me his PP screen name?

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Why, you wanna play him HU?
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:31 PM
AceHigh AceHigh is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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hands: 4085
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results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)


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Looking bad for the "just a lucky player" theory.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:32 PM
PairTheBoard PairTheBoard is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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it has been posted on the forums if you are willing to search

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It's even been posted in this thread.

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DERB = Lojzka ?

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Old 06-21-2005, 10:44 PM
DpR DpR is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

The W$SD figure here is what is so amazing. How is it possible to show down such a high percentage of winners when he is starting with average hands? That is the piece I cant understand and seems to only be able to be explained by luck. But how can luck continue for the same guy?

I can buy the part about running people over leading to a good win rate. But showing down winners? how can that be?
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