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Old 03-12-2005, 06:44 PM
ike ike is offline
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Default Re: Is there life beyond the Party15-30

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no one here can honestly tell me they would change how they played a hand (profitably) if the opponent's VIP is 29 or 22 or 19 or 30.

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This is so, so, so, sooooooooooooooo wrong. 19 limps in mp, folded to me on the button, I fold A5o. If its a 30 I raise. If you're not thinking this way you're probably losing, maybe winning small.
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Old 03-12-2005, 07:08 PM
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I'd love to see some of these guys in a B&M without the handy stats hovering over every opponent's shoulder.

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I play a lot in both environments. At B&M you see the same folks over and over and for long stretches at a time and can totally focus on the game that you are in at 35-40 hands/hour. So you can almost keep their "stats" in your head.

With 3 (or more) tables going at 250+ hands an hour, 30+ opponents that are regularly turning over, you have to split your attention more and react faster. So having something as a "reminder" on the player is helpful when the computer beeps at you and the action is on you.
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Is there life beyond the Party15-30

I also play both a lot, although probably 70% B&M, 30% online. I just started using pokertracker a couple months ago.

I think the people who use pokertracker and play online exclusively are going to find it difficult to adjust to characterizing opponents live.
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Old 03-12-2005, 09:22 PM
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That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

TSP
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: Is there life beyond the Party15-30

Very insightful
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Is there life beyond the Party15-30

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I also play both a lot, although probably 70% B&M, 30% online. I just started using pokertracker a couple months ago.

I think the people who use pokertracker and play online exclusively are going to find it difficult to adjust to characterizing opponents live.

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Old 03-13-2005, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Is there life beyond the Party15-30

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agreed. no one here can honestly tell me they would change how they played a hand (profitably) if the opponent's VIP is 29 or 22 or 19 or 30.

TSP

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It becomes fairly significant with a large sample. If a 92/48/12 guy open-raises in MP, you 3-bet him with AJo. If a 9/2/1 guy raises UTG, you might even consider mucking TT.
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Old 03-13-2005, 09:39 PM
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I think the people who use pokertracker and play online exclusively are going to find it difficult to adjust to characterizing opponents live.

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This is ridiculous.

When I play B&M (rarely, anymore), the game moves in slow motion. I have what seems like an infinite amount of time to analyze every action at the table. At times, it's like watching paint dry.
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Old 03-13-2005, 09:43 PM
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I pretty much disregard any post that starts with Pokertracker stats.

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IMO, the biggest culprit is that [censored] hand converter. Instead of having to type out the hand and actually put some thought into it, legions of posters have taken the "assembly line" approach, cutting and pasting hands at maniacal rates.
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