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Old 12-30-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default how to deal with a loosie passive

the villain, after 37 hands, has 84% vpip, 8% pf raise, and 0.3/0.4/2.33 aggression (overall 0.52). he seems to always want to see a flop, and post-flop likes to call down draws without odds. here are 3 hands in which i was involved with him.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.25)</font>
Button ($39.95)
SB ($25.66)
BB ($57.67)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($54)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.75</font>, UTG calls $2.75.

Turn: ($8.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.99</font>, UTG calls $4.99.

River: ($18.33) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $18.33

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Qh 2h (two pair, queens and twos).
Hero has Kh Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $18.33. </font>

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($26.85)
Hero ($23.90)
BB ($40.45)
UTG ($29.56)
MP ($63.74)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $0.9</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP calls $2.

Turn: ($6.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.25

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($27.10)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($28.10)</font>
SB ($32.11)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($62.19)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($6.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($6.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $6.10

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 5c Jc (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Td Tc (two pair, tens and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $6.10. </font>

given that the hands occurred in that order, what changes would be suggested to the action? comments on all aspects of play are appreciated.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: how to deal with a loosie passive

here are my thoughts on the situation. first, i am surprised he did not raise his 2p, expecting me to keep betting into him. knowing that he calls 6xbb raises with such trash as Q2s out of position [as is typical for most fish], how should that affect later confrontations? for example in the second hand he led the turn when checked to. doesn't look like a draw since he would probably check it; probably a king (given his aggro factor). the last hand i check turn because he may check a A/K again expecting me to bet. maybe value bet the river here?
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: how to deal with a loosie passive

Against this type of player, just keep on value betting until you get raised. Then you have a decision to make. Without further reads, I would value bet the river in the first one.
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