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Old 11-30-2005, 04:18 PM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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Default Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??

Well i think we're behind KK/QQ(AA unlikly when we get to the turn obviously).

So i don't see us winning, but say we're going to call river anyhow:

Spade won't bother me in the slightest, im sure he's not on a flush draw(Although 35% equity + Chance OP may fold may making the flop actions +EV? who knows).

K/Q would put us further behind, So i'd probably fold if villan bets on OP lines.

But if we check turn, its more likly a bluff.
But after all that action, What do we beat?
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??

Looking back on this, i think this is a case of simple hand reading with lvl 1 thinking, what is he capping w/ preflop and 3 betting the flop with, only hands that make sense are 99+, i realize after the 3bet on the flop, i should calldown now, and maybe even fold the turn UI, i know that seems weaktight, but i think this is pretty straightfoward. Villain showed TT, the only hand i beat, MHIG, thanks all for helping me realize that i need lots of work in simple hand reading
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??

what do you do if villain donks the turn?
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??

Sheesh, he's an aggressive so and so eh! lol, Cool.

Still hate that turn bet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??

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what do you do if villain donks the turn?

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I think i grind my teeth and fold, really not much i can beat that he has
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Sheesh, he's an aggressive so and so eh! lol, Cool.

Still hate that turn bet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Im still unsure about, i think i messed up b4 on the flop, i wonder if i call the 3bet, does he still continue on the turn, and if he checks do i bet again trying to steal the pot from KK and QQ??
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??

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what do you put villain on

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Either KK or QQ.

I don't feel good about capping the flop. What does he caps that he likes 3betting on the flop. Either 99-AA in which case you don't beat anything, either AK, AQ of [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Less likely since he cheked the turn. My line would be to call down after the flop 3bet and fold when the A hits.
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