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Old 11-02-2005, 04:02 PM
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Paris riots spread, shaking French government

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Observers saw the riots as a sign of the growing divisions in French society -- Muslim immigration, poverty, declining education standards in downtrodden areas and joblessness.

Not all is well with the socialist system in France it appears.
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Paris riots spread, shaking French government

if they'd fight that hard when there's a war they wouldn't be taken over so much -

kidding - [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

all representative governments go thru issues - we have riots too - I wouldn't be plotting the downfall of socialized health care and Social Security or freedom of religion yet -

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Old 11-02-2005, 04:13 PM
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So the socialist system doesn't work so well for the poor and uneducated, and the capitalist system doesn't work so well for the poor and uneducated, where does that leave the debate on how to handle those less fortunate?
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:19 PM
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Here a link to pictures and commentary from a non-liberal news source.

Riots are happening in Denmark too.

Europe belongs to Allah.
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:44 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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What's really sad about this, is that it has developed slowly towards this situation for a long time (at least a decade or so), with the government being aware and worried, still unable to fix it.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:09 PM
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What do people expect letting in a bunch of socialist Muslims into their country? The blame goes to De Gaule for not reconquering Algeria along with those stupid leftists who promote the socialist immigrant agenda without regard for religion or culture. This is only the beginning of something greater.

I just hope the Muslims kill many snobby socialist Frenchmen, which should not be hard to do.
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Old 11-02-2005, 06:15 PM
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What do people expect letting in a bunch of socialist Muslims into their country? The blame goes to De Gaule for not reconquering Algeria along with those stupid leftists who promote the socialist immigrant agenda without regard for religion or culture. This is only the beginning of something greater.

I just hope the Muslims kill many snobby socialist Frenchmen, which should not be hard to do.

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Uh, maybe you've not noticed the immigration policy of the U.S.? Or maybe I completely don't understand it.

Discounting the "illegal" immigrants, don't we allow folks to come here without regard to their religion or culture? Or that's been my understanding for a long time.

I'm not saying we have the best regulations (some of which are actually enforced) and I'm not saying the French are the dumbest in their way of doing things. (well, a lot of the things they do anyway) I just think you picked a bad example.

Also, hoping for the death of the Frenchmen, socialist or not, is really not a very nice thing.
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Old 11-02-2005, 06:18 PM
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At the obvious: it doesn't work so well to be poor and uneducated. Stop the presses.
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Old 11-02-2005, 06:51 PM
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France is trying to build a multicultural society. Multiculturalism is the only way for the future. Leading a country in that direction requires courage, and the French leaders possess that courage. However, Paris is a big city with big differences between rich and poor and severe social problems, and much of the immigrants end up in these sort of ghettos. The French government seems overstretched when facing these problems.

But, they have succeded in turning France in a multicultural direction. The common American prejudices (in common I don't mean everybody) towards many other cultures are not very present in France. More France-like countries and less conservative religious countries like US; and this world would be better.
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Paris riots spread, shaking French government

[ QUOTE ]
France is trying to build a multicultural society. Multiculturalism is the only way for the future. Leading a country in that direction requires courage, and the French leaders possess that courage. However, Paris is a big city with big differences between rich and poor and severe social problems, and much of the immigrants end up in these sort of ghettos. The French government seems overstretched when facing these problems.

But, they have succeded in turning France in a multicultural direction. The common American prejudices (in common I don't mean everybody) towards many other cultures are not very present in France. More France-like countries and less conservative religious countries like US; and this world would be better.

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I think an argument could be made that France is a much more monocultural society than the US. Multi-ethnic, multireligious, but monocultural. Think of the French Academy screening new words for unwanted influences or the repressive anti-religious legislation in the schools. Anyways, check my next post for a smarter guy's take...
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