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Old 12-15-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default How do you play this with the snowmen?

40k on PP. I've been pretty quiet. Picked up a few hands to win a few small pots. Short stack has been pretty aggressive and is desperate. Should I re-raise here to isolate? What do I make of the limp re-raise? Can I fold half my stack here?
***** Hand History for Game 3203064413 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 18286268) - Wed Dec 14 23:47:27 EST 2005
Table $40K Guaranteed(539417) Table 15 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: rickstirg (1555)
Seat 2: altonham (3157)
Seat 4: FLOPSSEA (4776)
Seat 5: gnl1956 (2380)
Seat 6: Domenique82 (640)
Seat 7: Tirtis (375)
Seat 8: tomstern (1460)
Seat 9: FGators26 (1775)
Seat 10: Merkler (5807)
FGators26 posts small blind (75)
Merkler posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FGators26 [ 8s, 8h ]
rickstirg folds.
altonham folds.
FLOPSSEA calls (150)
gnl1956 folds.
Domenique82 folds.
Tirtis raises (375) to 375
Tirtis is all-In.
tomstern folds.
FGators26 raises (725) to 800
Merkler folds.
FLOPSSEA raises (1075) to 1225
FGators26 raises (975) to 1775
FGators26 is all-In.
FLOPSSEA calls (550)
Creating Main Pot with $1275 with Tirtis
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2800 with FGators26
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, 9s, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qs ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1275 | Side Pot 1: 2800 |
Board: [ 2c 9s 3h Qs 3c ]
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:01 AM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

Standard, although I may have just pushed.

669 posts and you still can't end the hand history with your decision point?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:06 AM
Exitonly Exitonly is offline
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

reraising to 800 when you only have 1700 is not standard..

just push it, if you're gonna play it at all.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

I like the way you played it. You could have just called the reraise and see what comes on the flop. ie. if it's A, K, Q you could consider folding. But with a 9 high flop you would go all-in anyway.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:16 AM
Hickboy Hickboy is offline
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

I usually fold here %100 of the time...

maybe I'm just weak tight.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

So the consensus is push/fold?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:29 AM
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Easy easy push. Get it in there.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:34 AM
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I thought I had maybe misplayed the hand, but maybe I'm weak tight like Hickboy. The limper showed AA and the short stack KK and I was bounced from the tourney. I COULD have folded the re-raise but I'm happy with the way I played the shortstack. I can't fold any pairs with that small of a push all in.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

Putting half your stack in there in the first place was a mistake. You should have pushed then and you have to push now.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: How do you play this with the snowmen?

Going to reply without reading any others...

1) your re-raise was too small...it costs third player 425 into a 1475 pot, more than 3-1 odds. He almost HAS to call unless he's screwing around, and/or puts you on AA/KK.

2) with that small a raise he may think YOU'RE just screwing around. A bigger raise (almost definitely a push) or a mere call is appropriate here as the pot is 750 and you only have 1625 left. This is nearly a 50% increase to your stack.

3) This "limit" betting reeks of one of two things: a great deal of inexperience on all parts, or a monster (still coupled with a great deal of inexperience) on your opponent's part.

Either way, you should push or call the reraise, not sweeten the pot with 88 giving your opponent an almost mandatory call.

My guess is Flopsea turned over AA or KK with the reads you gave us, after he caught a hand.
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