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#32
11-10-2003, 03:07 AM
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Re: Hand reading Exercise
So we know that we know nothing about the Big Blind, this means that he could have any two cards. We do not know if he knows anything about the wasy Mason plays. I think we can pretty much rule out any pair since he probably would not have mucked. Therefore, more than likely he had some type of draw, 3 to the straight and or 3 to the flush. The most likely hands then would be J9s, T9s, 78s, 75s, 45s. I would guess 78s.
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#33
11-10-2003, 05:23 AM
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Re: Hand reading Exercise
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Sorry for being clueless, but what are "asian games"? -Diplomat [/ QUOTE ] Diplomat, Out here in California, where it's not quite cold enough to freeze a puck yet, our larger card barns are divided into the "poker side," and the "Asian games side," i.e., pai gow poker, pai gow tiles, and Pan 9 (IOW, games where you have to be the bank to be +ev).. Dan P.S. I'm not bitching about the fact that it's cold enough to freeze a puck in ON right now...I reffed five hockey games tonight and the ice sucked! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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#34
11-10-2003, 07:31 AM
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Re: Hand reading Exercise
Diplomat,
Generally, "Asian Games" are games such as Pai Gow (played with tiles), Pai Gow Poker, Super Pan Nine, and similar variants. In the larger card clubs they have their own section. In the past they accounted for about 40% of the floor space and perhaps 70% of the revenue. There is some crossover play, and sometimes the "live one" in your poker game will spend his 30 minutes away from the table playing super pan nine in an attempt to get even. Years ago there was one day when law enforcement shut down these games. That day the holdem games were absolutely wild. ~ Rick
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#35
11-10-2003, 07:34 AM
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Re: Hand reading Exercise
Dan,
Sorry, I went right from my mail to the forum to answer Diplomats question. You of course already had the right answer. ~ Rick
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#36
11-10-2003, 08:02 AM
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It\'s Not Good to Hear!
Mason,
I agree that the Asian games have hurt poker but these games have been the most profitable part of the card clubs business. Now that the Indian casinos are hurting this part of the business in particular the card clubs have a greater incentive to find some legal way (the most likely being a successful lawsuit) to get the kind of games the Indian casinos have. For the most part that means slots. In greater Los Angeles, slots and poker won't co-exist if slots became legal. The gaming floor space is so limited and the demand for slots so great that poker tables would disappear overnight. With California being in such terrible financial circumstances, don’t be surprised if Governor Arnold (I will have to learn to spell his last name) cuts a deal with Indian tribes to put casinos near downtowns as long as the state gets a big piece of the action. Unfortunately, the societal damage caused by putting Las Vegas style gambling near poor neighborhoods will be huge so in the end the state will come out behind. States such as Connecticut (home of Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun) benefit greatly from these huge Indian Casinos because these casinos are located in a relatively unpopulated corner of the state and largely draw from Massachusetts, Rhode Island and to a lesser extent New York. New England as a whole pays the price (and I believe there is a price to pay when Las Vegas style gambling can be found a few minutes away from most of the nation’s population). BTW, unlike Connecticut, California won’t have a net gain from the expansion of Indian gaming. Most of the customers will be from California and these customers will suffer most of the losses, causing some sort of burden on the taxpaying public. Regards, Rick
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#37
11-10-2003, 12:20 PM
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Re: Hand reading Exercise
Hi Rick and Dan,
that's what I thought. We have them up here, and are by far the biggest part of the casinos. (although slots may rival them) The slots are killer -- besides the considerations you mentioned, they put them right beside the cardroom in one particular casino up here. Not exactly a quiet working environment. -Diplomat
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#39
11-10-2003, 05:05 PM
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Re: Hand reading Exercise
Mason,
I read this post, and then I thought "how are we supposed to know if he has 45s, 78s, or 57s? This isn't fair! He's tricking us. I thought hand reading puzzles had to have, exact, snappy asnwers, like JTs or AdKd. This is very unsettling... Dan Z.
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