Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.

Chief911 · #1 12-13-2005, 11:02 PM

Ok. I've played two hands previous to this. Won one w/out showdown, and won one w/out showdown. Both small pots.

No good info on villian in this hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t2030)
MP3 (t885)
CO (t1025)
Button (t1125)
SB (t820)
BB (t1075)
UTG (t970)
UTG+1 (t1200)
Hero (t1090)
MP1 (t1680)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t60, MP1 calls t60, 6 folds.

Flop: (t150) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t225, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t375

I wasn't done with the pain though. Next hand:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

MP1 (t2030)
MP2 (t885)
MP3 (t1025)
CO (t1125)
Button (t810)
SB (t1055)
BB (t970)
UTG (t1200)
Hero (t1030)
UTG+2 (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls t20, 3 folds, MP3 raises to t60, 1 fold, Button raises to t120, 2 folds, Hero calls t100, MP3 calls t60.

Flop: (t390) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button bets t400, Hero folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: t790

Finally, a third verse:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t2030)
MP1 (t885)
MP2 (t905)
MP3 (t1125)
CO (t1080)
Button (t1045)
SB (t950)
BB (t1200)
Hero (t910)
UTG+1 (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, UTG+1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 2 folds, CO calls t60, Button raises to t1045 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero

ansky451 · #2 12-13-2005, 11:05 PM

1) good. If hes tricky at all i also check flop, or if hes a donkey.

2) I open raise but it doesn't really matter. if i limped i play it your way.

3) insta push.

Roman · #3 12-13-2005, 11:05 PM

meh I dont mind it either way, I call/fold depending on the tournament/my mood/what else I gotta do that day.

Chief911 · #4 12-13-2005, 11:25 PM

I should mention that hand 3, was RIGHT after hand 2.

Nick

yabastid · #5 12-13-2005, 11:50 PM

Hey, Chief,

I think 1 and 2 are pretty standard. I don't mind the limp with JJ and I think a fold is pretty easy.
Hand 3 I'm pooooshing!

#6 12-13-2005, 11:57 PM

I like hand 1 and hand 2, hand 3 I'm calling.

Exitonly · #7 12-14-2005, 12:11 AM

1. c-bet it you little girl.
2. why the limp? raiiiiise that. w/ the limp, yea just toss it.
3. Call.

KneeCo · #8 12-14-2005, 12:12 AM

[ QUOTE ]
1. c-bet it you little girl.
2. why the limp? raiiiiise that. w/ the limp, yea just toss it.
3. Call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Seems about right. I thik the limpers open up the villains range quite a bit in hand 3. What's the buy-in?

PFrese · #9 12-14-2005, 12:11 PM

[ QUOTE ]
1. c-bet it you little girl.
2. why the limp? raiiiiise that. w/ the limp, yea just toss it.
3. Call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah - what he said! With special emphasis on number one. You have to CBet here - everytime.

I would also add - tough three hands in a row! Those are typically the hards hands to play correctly (AQ and JJ) and you got them in a row. I hope your last all in went well, and the hands got a bit easier for you after that!

Chief911 · #10 12-14-2005, 12:25 PM

Lets talk about hand 1.

I'm UTG+2, and my opponent seemed on the somewhat tight side. Lets just say I was making an effort to pay attention, and I was surprised by his cc of my raise. I believe he is a thinking player, although its hard to say this early, in a tourney that has lots of juicy satelliters in it.

One of the things that has been bothering me is in this situation, I whiff the flop. I put his range for CC'ing me to a pocket pair, or AQ and up. I suppose you could include some suited connectors. So, this flop was MUCH more likely to have improved his holdings than mine.

A week ago, I would have auto-pushed out a bet of T100 or so. But, I've been analyzing my game, especially in the party 150's, and it seems like I'm losing alot of $$ to missed flops OOP where I continuation bet, and get called. So, I just bet 1/10th my stack, and to the turn we go, where I miss one of my 6 outs. Now what?

I will agree that I should have bet the turn. Once he checked behind, I think betting out is reasonable.

I think the factors that made this a GOOD candidate for no continuation bet:

1. It would essentially have to be close to 1/10th my stack.
2. I'm OOP
3. Opponent CC'd my raise, and is fairly tight.

Thoughts?

Nick

p.s. I had enough by the third JJ hand, called the allin figuring that more times than not, I was going to be shown Ax (AJ or higher) and 77 through TT, many more times than QQ through AA. He has AK. I'm happy. Then unhappy.