Where to play 2/4 limit? Party, Absolute or UB?

Beck · #1 06-09-2005, 03:24 PM

As of now, I've played about 20.000 hands of 2/4, about half at Pokerroom clearing ther bonuses and then some some at crypto and Empire. Being the bad player that I am,I'm still in the red with about 65BB, but that's about to change (I hope...)

Anyway, once I'm done with the PR bonus, where should I start playing next?

My average rake have been $0.9 pr hand, and it seems approximately 50% of all hands are raked?

All assuming full tables:
At Empire I get 25% rakeback, which would give me $2.25/100 hands or 0.56BB/100

At Absolute I get 25% rakeback, which would give me $2.5+$5(bonus)=$7.5/100 or 1.88BB/100

At Ultimate The UB points equals a 100% rakeback, which would give me $9/100 or 2.25BB/100

Do the bad players at Party really make up nearly 2BB compared to UB? Or is my math flawed omewhere, making it evidentthat Party is the place to play?
I know I can only play 3 tables at both Absolute and UB, but that still 6 tables total.

playersare · #2 06-09-2005, 03:32 PM

why wouldn't you include party and empire bonuses in your calculations as well? they have a decent amount of reload money every month as well, at least as much as UB does. and the 7x clear rate on party skins even deducted from MGR would slightly exceed 10c bonus + rakeback at $2/4 on Absolute and UB.

rake structures are about the same at all sites once you reach $20+ avg pot level, and party would definitely be the softest.

imported_CaseClosed326 · #3 06-09-2005, 03:34 PM

I think it would be best to play where you can combine bonus+rakeback. UB seems to be like the best idea. I have never played there so I could not tell you anyting about it. I am currently doing the absolute bonus and I have been doing well so far. The players don't seem to be anything special. Your goal should be to pretty much clear the bonii at both sites so it won't matter where you play first.

My suggestion would be AP and/or UB and hit up party when they have bonii.

Arnfinn Madsen · #4 06-09-2005, 03:39 PM

I made some calculation on this (which I have lost [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]) where I concluded the best deal is at Absolute.

Beck · #5 06-09-2005, 04:26 PM

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why wouldn't you include party and empire bonuses in your calculations as well? they have a decent amount of reload money every month as well, at least as much as UB does. and the 7x clear rate on party skins even deducted from MGR would slightly exceed 10c bonus + rakeback at $2/4 on Absolute and UB.

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Yes, not including their reloads was a mistake. Guess it slipped by mind since they aren't (almost) unlimited as Absolutes. So far UB have seen as unlimited bonus to me too, but when playing 2/4 I guess you cut into it rather quickly after all.

Beck · #6 06-09-2005, 04:29 PM

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I think it would be best to play where you can combine bonus+rakeback. UB seems to be like the best idea.

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unfortunately UB was the first site I joined, before I knew about rakeback - you know, back when Q4o was a powerhouse [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Any suggestions how to get them to close your account? Say you have a gambling problem, and then "give in to the urge" n a couple of months?

Beck · #7 06-09-2005, 05:04 PM

How does this look? Is percentage of raked hands at 50% correct? Browsed through the classifieds, but didn't see any rakeback offers for Pokerroom nor Paradise?

Rakeback calculations at 2/4 for 100 hands
Average rake 0.9
Rake percentage 50%

Site MGR Bonus $ RB % RB $ $ total RB % total
Abs 10 5 25% 2.5 7.5 75.00%
UB 9 9 25% 2.25 11.25 125.00%
PR 9 7 0 0 7 77.78%
Paradise 9 5 0 0 5 55.56%
Party 9 0 25% 2.25 2.25 25.00%
Party 5X 9 10 25% 0 10 111.11%
Party 7X 9 7 25% 0.5 7.5 83.33%
Party 10X 9 5 25% 1 6 66.67%

Mother Mucker · #8 06-09-2005, 05:15 PM

Can someone explain to me, like I'm an idiot, how the rakeback at UB works?

I've never had an account there.

Are they an affiliate with someone else that will prevent me from getting rakeback there?

Is it allowed?

Thanks.

Beck · #9 06-09-2005, 05:20 PM

The rakeback you get from an affiliate works like every other form of rakeback.
But the type of bonii UB offers is actually a 100% rakeback. However, unlike many other sites, when you work of your bonus, it DOES NOT cut into the rakeback you earn through your affiliate.
hence a total of 125% rakeback or so

bobbyi · #10 06-09-2005, 05:24 PM

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At Ultimate The UB points equals a 100% rakeback

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How you figure?