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#31
08-07-2005, 07:22 PM
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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I play the lower limits, 11 and 22, and I have to say that there are very few players that are paying attention, maybe about 3 of the 9 players. half of them are playing other games. Table image only doesn't play as much as it does in a live game. [/ QUOTE ] I had played with this villian before, they were one of the ones paying attention. And KQo is not at the very bottom of my range here. 
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#33
08-07-2005, 07:47 PM
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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Do it against his range. Calling is correct CEV wise but not $EV wise. We assume that getting a big stack is worth the small -$EV hit right now. Equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 33.9270 % [ 00.34 00.00 ] { KQo } Hand 2: 66.0730 % [ 00.66 00.00 ] { AA-77, AKs-AJs, AKo-AJo } [/ QUOTE ] I would put villain on a slightly looser range.. I'd at least include KQo and ATo. But I don't suppose that would change things so dramatically that this wouldn't clearly be a fold. (Not a clear fold, but clearly a fold [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) What's there to argue about after Nottom's post [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#34
08-07-2005, 07:50 PM
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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fold preflop if you are not willing to make this call. [/ QUOTE ] What's wrong with being able to get away when a villain wakes up with what is most likely to be a dominant hand?
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#36
08-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
Because if you fold here you are showing that you are willing to fold a hand from a steal position after raising and being pushed back at. If you fold here you can expect that (and while this may not be true against complete donks) that they will begin playing back at you. You are getting 2.21:1 pot odds, if you are not willing to call here against villain's range, what exactly are you waiting for?
We are gambling here.
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#37
08-07-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
If the general feeling is that the pot odds are about right for the call then it's a neutral situation so calling or folding are equally vaild.
Personally I'd fold in this spot because not all chips were created equal, your're risking chips that take you below average stack in whats basically a gamble. I like to think that I have enough of an edge that I try to avoid pure gambles as much as possible. As for the image argument for calling, fine I only fold once in this spot if someone thinks they can resteal great, next time I'm calling and hopefully they've dropped their resteal standards.
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#38
08-07-2005, 10:40 PM
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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[ QUOTE ] What's there to argue about after Nottom's post [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If you remove AJo and ATs and 88 from the range it's much closer. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, like a solid opponent is going to fold AJ, ATs or 88.. Just not going to happen enough of the time. Call, you're getting the odds. And mucking here means you might restolen out, a lot of the time.
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