88 - Should i of found the fold button?

POKhER · #1 09-14-2005, 04:54 AM

MP2 is just an odd player, cold called loads, bets with nothing, plays loads of hands.

Thats the read i had on him when this hand popped up, had no PT stats... So i've supplied you with the same info i had.

DID I PLAY BADLY?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, CO raises, Button folds, BB folds, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls, CO caps, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls, CO raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (17.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls, CO raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 25.70 BB

Shillx · #2 09-14-2005, 05:00 AM

This looks like collusion more then anything. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

First off, raise preflop after MP2 limps and try to isolate (yeah maybe tough to do at this limit but it is the concept that matters). Raise the flop too as you probably have him beat and you want hands like KJ to fold.

Brad

POKhER · #3 09-14-2005, 05:09 AM

lol, I thought that.... Specially the CO Raise/Fold (But some 2+2'ers do that so maybe not).

Was tough hand, i think i'm ahead and the large pot are my reasons to continue. So you'd play it the same(Assuming you didn't isolate) but try isolate preflop next time(Then it will play out differently).

TIA

J. Stew · #4 09-14-2005, 05:20 AM

You're getting the odds to call the turn assuming your not drawing dead, which is a possibility considering the flop action. I'm dumping the river at the latest though. I'm not smart enough to get a read on a guy who caps the flop, raises the turn and river, then folds, weird TT maybe? I'm worried about the six on the turn cause the flop played like two pair. I might just fold the turn with the flop capper still to act.

Highn · #5 09-14-2005, 05:28 AM

I think I'de fold to the 3-bet on the turn.

POKhER · #6 09-14-2005, 05:32 AM

Few questions,

What do you put these guys on?
If CO has TT, Did he play it well? Weak folding to a raise on river when a OC falls no?

Throughout this hand i was fighting myself, one point was "Huge pot, Might be ahead dont fold" other was "What have these guys got? Straights? FH? Trips? Your going to lose".

Just couldn't find it in myself to fold.

Results will come after more discussion

#7 09-14-2005, 06:01 AM

Fold to the 3-bet on the river and save 2BB. While MP3 might be an odd player you have to wonder what CO is raising with. Even if you have MP3 beat you're surely behind to CO.

Highn · #8 09-14-2005, 06:07 AM

Shillx has a good point by saying to raise the flop, will also be way more clear what those guys might have. At the turn I don't really care what they have, theres just too many hands out there beating you and with the possible flush draw I'm not sure if you can count your straight outs as full outs.

POKhER · #9 09-14-2005, 06:09 AM

Yeh CO worried me more so than MP, but the HUGE POT...

I was trying to see river cheaply, but couldn't find the fold button wehn it got more expensive.

Ahhhh this hand tore me up.

Results below
CO folded, maybe he has TT...

Mp has JT for rivered Jack pair, wins.[adds to buddy list]

SavageMiser · #10 09-14-2005, 06:41 AM

Raise preflop. Raise the flop.

I think I'm folding on the turn here, if only because I'm trapped between these players. Plus I could be drawing dead and even if I'm not, lots of my outs are dirty dirty dirty. Blech.