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Old 11-01-2005, 08:09 PM
Self Made Self Made is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

Some of the worst customer service I've ever experienced, at any type of business:
They let me do two sub-$50 cashouts. Then I found my cashier locked. Asked why. They said it's because I did sub-$50 cashouts. I asked them to re-enable the cashier. They said "only if you promise not to do sub-$50 cashouts." I did. They didn't re-enable it. I asked why. They said I needed to promise not to do sub-$50 cashouts (again). I declined to humiliate myself for them again and asked that my case be bumped up to a supervisor. The supervisor emailed me saying "I agree with the CS representative." Apparently she skipped the part of CS 101 where they explain that you greet customers with "how may I help you?"
I don't play there any more because I can't deposit. And because I'm furious with them.
They apparently think of customers as children or nuisances or people who can be repeatedly humiliated for their entertainment, rather than... customers.
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:55 PM
Schwartzy61 Schwartzy61 is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

There's a menu option to turn the blackjack and sportsbook ads off if you want to save yourself the $5 to $10/month.
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:58 PM
BruinEric BruinEric is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

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I mean how can a program be truely random. Lets say it takes a seed for the RNG

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Why guess how Paradise uses entropy for their RNG when they explain it in detail on their website? You should read the whole thing to assuage your concerns about how your web-surfing habits might effect the shuffle in a way to make it not random.

Here is the bit on entropy collection for their RNG:

We have two main sources of these random bits. First, the rng on the server samples the low order bits of the CPU's time stamp counter (667MHz) at irregular parts of the program and when data is received from client connections, and uses it to add to the entropy in our large seed.

Secondly (and mainly) the client programs send their own 32-bits of entropy with every action they make and with several of the other packets they send to the server. The client's entropy is gathered from both mouse and keyboard movements, as well as the lower 32-bits of their CPU time stamp counters. With thousands of clients connected using all sorts of different hardware and moving their mice in different non-predictable ways, this is by far the biggest source of entropy and gets us far more than 17 new random bits per second. In fact, tests performed in February 2001 indicate that it typically yields over 7000 bits of new random data per second. We're using several sources of reliably random entropy; no single point of failure. Can you say overkill?


Let me add a little factiod I put on my blog from an interview with Dan Paymar -- those shuffling machines you see at the B&M? They use an RNG (gasp!).
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:31 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

Not to beat a dead horse and once again this is no proof of anything but I played 300 hands there last night to begin clearing their latest Halloween reload and saw two quads in these hands.

One of them was me flopping quad queen's and the other guy ended up making a full house so I raked in massive action, so I didn't mind at all!

Once again, just wanted to note this... I'm up about 15 BB and have cleared 25% of the bonus so I really could care less about how they shuffle. I only bonus whore them and always take out more money that I deposit... which is really what its all about.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:55 PM
OldYoda OldYoda is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

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Not to beat a dead horse and once again this is no proof of anything but .....



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You have over 800 posts, I don't want to beat a dead horse but you're an idiot.
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Old 11-02-2005, 06:39 PM
wbrumfiel wbrumfiel is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

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I do not have a sufficient sample size


this first sentence marks the point that your post becomes worthless, anecdotal evidence.

i have gotten quads a tad LESS than expected in over 310,000+ hands.

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Let em go elsewhere Granny. The last thing I need right now is MORE tight bonus whores at my Paradise tables. PARADISE IS RIGGED!! PARADISE IS RIGGED!!
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:08 PM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

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I do not have a sufficient sample size


this first sentence marks the point that your post becomes worthless, anecdotal evidence.

i have gotten quads a tad LESS than expected in over 310,000+ hands.

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Let em go elsewhere Granny. The last thing I need right now is MORE tight bonus whores at my Paradise tables. PARADISE IS RIGGED!! PARADISE IS RIGGED!!

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gr8 point.

paradise it T-R-O-U-B-L-E !!

go away trouts.

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