Calling Second Nut Low Spades...5/10 Party

[pokerkai]

Table is particularly loose and passive preflop.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

River: (3 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB

[KingSix]

I may fold this UTG unless this game is 5-7 handed every hand without a raise.

After that flop, I don't call a bet unless I catch the mircale straight flush. The pot is small on the end makes me fold here. Why risk 1BB to win 3BB when you can beat only one other flush?

Easy fold IMO.

King

[private joker]

I think the river call is ok. You're getting 3:1 and he easily could just be betting a pair of kings. When the 4th spade came on the turn and nobody bet it, MP3 must assume that there aren't any spades out there. Why not bet his top pair? Of course, yeah he could have the 8, 9, or T of spades. But if he does, he might have bet the flop. I think it just squeaks into the 3:1 range of pot odds to call it.

(By the way, with the draw you had on the flop -- OESFD, I think a bet might have been in order).

[pokerkai]

Having it checked around on the flop, turn and all the way to the last player on the river just simply screamed no spades out there.

I think if i have to overcall this is a clear fold, but with only the last position players left, I felt my hand was the best.

[pokerkai]

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I think the river call is ok. You're getting 3:1 and he easily could just be betting a pair of kings. When the 4th spade came on the turn and nobody bet it, MP3 must assume that there aren't any spades out there. Why not bet his top pair? Of course, yeah he could have the 8, 9, or T of spades. But if he does, he might have bet the flop. I think it just squeaks into the 3:1 range of pot odds to call it.

(By the way, with the draw you had on the flop -- OESFD, I think a bet might have been in order).

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Im getting 4 to 1 one on the call.

[sthief09]

knowing how to play hands like this doesn't make you a better player. it's too uncommon and it's not like any other situation. that being said, it's fine