TPNK after a LRR

[tongni]

MP2 has somewhere between nothing and near nothing. I would raise and pray.

PREFLOP: Getting potentially 13-1 odds to call, I would call with K3s, the pot is too big to consider folding this hand despite your bad relative position and the small chance someone may LRR.

FLOP: The pot is so big right now I dont think it matters much whether you bet this flop or check and call. But if you are checking this flop becuz you fear MP2's hand, then I dont like it. Given the preflop action you should realize that the MP2 does not have a strong hand, he limp reraised after two people initially called in front of him(this means if he had a monster hand like AA,KK,QQ he wouldve raised right away since he already has his market. When somebody limp reraises in this situation it almost always means a speculative holding that plays well multiway like 55, or T9s.

TURN: Your check on the flop actually set you up perfectly on the turn to protect your hand. You should definitely raise this turn, the SB couldve easily played QQ this way and thats the only excuse you need to make raising correct here in this large pot. You dont need to think of yourself as a favorite before you consider raising in this spot. The pot is large enough where you only need to have the best hand a small percentage of time to make raising correct. A raise is vital to protect your hand from the gutshot/5 outer draws the times your hand is good.

RIVER: If you dont improve, check it down.

[newhizzle]

well, im in the process of setting up my new hard drive and my old one [censored] up shortly after posting this, so i dont have access to the hand history right now, but ill give the results as i remember them

once again, i pussied out and called, it was raised behind me, folded to SB who called, i folded

river was either a 7 or an 8

SB checked, turn raiser(im pretty sure it was not the LRRer) bet, SB called

SB had QQ, turn raiser had either 58 or 57 for the rivered straight and my hand was good on the turn

i guess i was just confused by the preflop action and big ass field, but looking back on it i think i had a clear raise and thinking this was a fold is pretty bad

edit: also looking back on the action, i dont think there was any reason to put the LRRer on a hand, he was porbly just looking to gamble in a big ass pot

[skp]

Even before the flop comes down, it should be clear that the limp reraiser does not have a big preflop hand like AA KK, or AKs. He's got a suited connector or maybe a dinky little pair but it's mostly a suited conector. If it was UTG who limp reraised preflop, then his most likely hand would be a big mitt like AA et al.

So, you should bet the flop here. It's rainbow and you need to purify the flop. You don't want it to get checked around and give someone a big draw to the river eg. teh 8s comes and gives a guy holding T9 and another guy holding two spades big draws.

Having played it the way you did, you raise the turn here. This is a big pot. I also would not automatically fold if I got 3 bet. It's a big pot...er, I said that already...but a 3 bet now is not reason enough to believe that you are up against a set. I might fold. It depends on who raises and all that. I am just saying that automatically folding to a 3 bet in this huge pot is wrong.