Two hands vs David Grey 25/50 nl

[captZEEbo1]

4 handed I just sat 5 hands ago or so, haven't played any pots really

I utg open pot with JJ($5000), David Grey (covers) calls, SB folds, BB ($2500) calls

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 550)
BB checks, I bet 335, David Grey min raises to 670, BB folds, I call

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1890)
I check, David Grey Bets 1890, I c/r allin (he has to call 2100 more if he calls)
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fold fold, Hero opens sb for pot with 99, David Grey calls
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 300)
I lead 150 he calls

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 600)
I check call 275

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1100)
I check call 1100

[KaneKungFu123]

i dont know this guy but i dont like calling the flop, id probably reraise or fold, unless he gives up on the turn after trying to bluff steal a flop.

[captZEEbo1]

what do you reraise to and what are your plans if he calls? he could easily call with like 76 or 77-TT on flop right?

I hate how u played the JJ hand, mainly because its david grey. I would consider folding the miniraisee and would definitely fold to the turn bet. He's about as str8forward as it gets, when u get action your usually not gonna like it

oh and 2nd hand i'm pretty sure ur beat was this on full tilt?

[schwza]

noob question: can we take any info from the fact that DG bet full pot on the turn in hand 1 instead of betting 1/2 or 2/3 pot (or a-i), or does everybody just pot bet here?

[NajdorfDefense]

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4 handed I just sat 5 hands ago or so, haven't played any pots really

I utg open pot with JJ($5000), David Grey (covers) calls, SB folds, BB ($2500) calls

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 550)
BB checks, I bet 335, David Grey min raises to 670, BB folds, I call

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1890)
I check, David Grey Bets 1890, I c/r allin (he has to call 2100 more if he calls)

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Wow, DGrey cold-calls pfr, raises flop, pots turn and you think JJ is good? Hope it worked out for you, he's pretty damn ABC poker player.

What do you think he had when you c/r turn?

Naj

[fnord_too]

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4 handed I just sat 5 hands ago or so, haven't played any pots really

I utg open pot with JJ($5000), David Grey (covers) calls, SB folds, BB ($2500) calls

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 550)
BB checks, I bet 335, David Grey min raises to 670, BB folds, I call

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1890)
I check, David Grey Bets 1890, I c/r allin (he has to call 2100 more if he calls)

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Wow, DGrey cold-calls pfr, raises flop, pots turn and you think JJ is good? Hope it worked out for you, he's pretty damn ABC poker player.

What do you think he had when you c/r turn?

Naj

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My question is this: can DG call with an overpair there? What else could he have that can call there from everyone's description (well, 55; 66 seems a little out of character on the flop, but is possible I suppose). (Can he cold call preflop with A4/34/45s? If so, this is a very dangerous spot, if not, it all comes down to what he will call an unknown(?) with here.)

Edit: just to be clear, you are trying to represent 44/55/66 here ZEEbo and push him off of QQ-AA?

[AEKDBet]

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4 handed I just sat 5 hands ago or so, haven't played any pots really

I utg open pot with JJ($5000), David Grey (covers) calls, SB folds, BB ($2500) calls

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 550)
BB checks, I bet 335, David Grey min raises to 670, BB folds, I call

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1890)
I check, David Grey Bets 1890, I c/r allin (he has to call 2100 more if he calls)

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Key points - pots the turn, min raises the flop. If your CR all in is shutting him down, I only see it shutting down 67. To minraise with 67, then pot the turn when you pick up a pair doesn't seem like world class play...... soooooo

he is calling with AA-QQ. No?

Why the push? Do you think he was f'ing around? Is he going to muck QQ? Might repop you PF with QQ, might not, I really have no idea.


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fold fold, Hero opens sb for pot with 99, David Grey calls
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 300)
I lead 150 he calls

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 600)
I check call 275

8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1100)
I check call 1100

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Well at least you get to see what he had [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I think this hand evolved from your
- SB open + follow through
- check call on the turn + King/overcard on the river........


check calling with the king is easy, but check calling with 99 requires something that is not present in OP.

[Dr. Strangelove]

No way is he folding QQ-AA.