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Old 04-25-2005, 01:07 AM
Badger44 Badger44 is offline
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Default QQ in face of AK on flop

Looking for input on the following hand. This is FTP.com, 25c/50c limit holdem, table is loose and passive to a little aggressive, with a couple players that are just plain bad. I am Badger44, and I'm on the button with QQ.

Dealer: chipcatcher posts the small blind of $0.10
Dealer: sixclubcult posts the big blind of $0.25
Dealer: You have been dealt [Qd Qh]
Dealer: Potsy1959 folds
Dealer: jimmyjames folds
Dealer: DeanDaMan calls $0.25
Dealer: mAAximus calls $0.25
Dealer: Rockieman calls $0.25
Dealer: xecontrol folds
Dealer: Badger44 raises to $0.50
Dealer: chipcatcher folds
Dealer: sixclubcult calls $0.25
Dealer: DeanDaMan calls $0.25
Dealer: mAAximus calls $0.25
Dealer: Rockieman calls $0.25
Dealer: The flop is [Kc As 6h]
Dealer: sixclubcult checks
Dealer: DeanDaMan checks
Dealer: mAAximus checks
Dealer: Rockieman checks

At this point, I figure someone has an A or K, but no one bet, so I put out a feeler bet. Should I have just checked at this point?

Dealer: Badger44 bets $0.25
Dealer: sixclubcult folds
Dealer: DeanDaMan calls $0.25
Dealer: mAAximus folds
Dealer: Rockieman calls $0.25
Dealer: The turn is [Jd]
Dealer: DeanDaMan checks
Dealer: Rockieman checks

Now I figure a Q or T and I win -- didn't consider that the T will likely give me a tie and the Q may give someone a straight until reviewing the hand. I decided to take the free card.

Dealer: Badger44 checks
Dealer: The river is [4h]
Dealer: DeanDaMan checks
Dealer: Rockieman bets $0.50

Now I figure I am probably beat, but this guy played this hand so weak before, I decide to call in case he is bluffing. Should I have folded here?

Dealer: Badger44 calls $0.50
Dealer: DeanDaMan calls $0.50
Dealer: Rockieman shows two pair, Aces and Fours
Dealer: Badger44 mucks
Dealer: DeanDaMan mucks
Dealer: Rockieman wins the pot ($4.85) with two pair, Aces and Fours
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:30 AM
the_rookie the_rookie is offline
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

This hand looks fine. Betting that turn is debatable, but you could've still drew the straight so checking behind is ok, rather than having the possibility of having to pay two bets to see the river.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'd probably call the river bet as well, since I've shown weakness from my turn check.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

I think you could argue for a turn bet as a semi-bluff+I might have the best hand+I want a free showdown.
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

use the convertor. and read the posting FAQs
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:02 AM
PayTheSnucka PayTheSnucka is offline
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

OMG - use the converter so we can help you!

I think the flop bet is a good feeler if you get raised but if you only get called, you have to be OK that you are beat. Who would call that board if they didnt have an A or a K (that would bet in early preflop position and call your raise)? QJ/QT/JT and a lower pair.

What could Rockyman be betting out with that you beat? I don't think 10-1 odds are enough to justify a call there.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

It's actually less than 8-1, he doesn't know Deandaman's going to overcall.

I'd rather bet the turn if you're planning on calling a river bet.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:33 PM
Badger44 Badger44 is offline
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

Thanks to everyone for all for the input.

Unfortunately, bison converter does not support Full Tilt Poker format. Well, that is, Full Tilt Poker doesn't have download hand history feature (yet), so I copied and pasted the text from their on-the-fly hand history window, and the converter did not recognize this. In the future, I'll try converting a hand from another site to see just what the converter does, then manually edit my FTP hands to match.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:02 PM
UncleSalty UncleSalty is offline
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

Just type it in in a reasonably coherent format, showing the pot size in # of bets and players on each street.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:07 PM
thesharpie thesharpie is offline
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Default Re: QQ in face of AK on flop

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Just type it in in a reasonably coherent format, showing the pot size in # of bets and players on each street.

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Or move to party, or write your own convertor.

I used to have to type it out by hand when playing on other sites and I think it would've been more efficient to choose either of the other alternatives.

Don't just post the hand history, though, it hurts our eyes and is rude. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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