Q8s blind steal

[pauliewalnuts]

SB was a 50/2/.5 donk after about 50 hands.
BB was an 11/7/3.75 tag over about 800

I felt somewhat confused in this hand. Should I have raised or folded the turn? Or is calling down ok here? SB's flop donk is as likely to be a draw as anything else and BB's AF speaks for itself.


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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

[brettbrettr]

Their stats are on thing, but how often do they give up their blinds?

[pauliewalnuts]

If I recall correctly, BB defended about 40% of the time. And I didnt have enough hands on SB for a meaningful number, but I doubt he folded very often.

[KDawgCometh]

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If I recall correctly, BB defended about 40% of the time. And I didnt have enough hands on SB for a meaningful number, but I doubt he folded very often.

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how on earth can the BB defend that much and only have a 11 vpip. anyway, I think that these stats and observations would probably lead me to attack the blinds with stronger hands then Q8s I think

[pauliewalnuts]

Youre right, the 40 was supposed to be 30. 30.9% to be exact, now that I've looked it up.

[The Legend]

Ok the tags preflop 3-bet is probably legit since the sb already called your steal raise. So, My current philosophy when a solid player 3-bets is don't f with them. Now we have a bet and raise on the flop, giving you 5 to 1 immediate to call. Maybe he has jj, tt, or ak, but I seriously doubt it, and not to mention the sb may have you beat as well. The pot isn't too big, but I'd call and fold unimproved. Without sb there, I'd call down all the way.

Basically, don't f with preflop 3-bettors unless you have solid holdings, thats what i think at least.