Shock and Awe in Miami

[BadBoyBenny]

[ QUOTE ]
Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism. And it is right to instill fear of it as well as the threat of external source terrorism. And although we should not allow permanent curbs on our liberties to fight same, we can and should be willing to submit to occasional such measures for limited periods.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is the most disgusting post I've read in a while.

[hmkpoker]

Hypothetically, if the government wanted to control us and instill laws and programs that invade our privacy in a 1984 fashion, wouldn't the best way to do it be to terrify with a horrible, impending threat that they "need" the government for, and then institute programs that the citizens are too terrified to think about and readily accept?

Hypothetically.

[BluffTHIS!]

[ QUOTE ]
This is the most disgusting post I've read in a while.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea, it sure is nice isn't it, to be white and living in a safe area of a smaller city instead of in a bad hood in a large city where you hear more gunfire at night than in Baghdad, and where the residents probably don't make the distinctions you do regarding gang bangers and terrorists.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Neither gang activity nor terrorism is an excuse to impinge upon liberty. As Harry Browne said after 9/11, the best way to make sure we catch and punish the right people is the same for terrorism as any other crime. Give those accused all the protections of our constitution.

That's really some fantasy world you Klingons live in.

<ul type="square"> <font color="white"> ................ </font> [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img][/list]

[Gunny Highway]

[ QUOTE ]
Terrorism: an excuse to have a police state.

[/ QUOTE ]

Makes you question who the real terrorists are.

[etgryphon]

[ QUOTE ]
Random Criminal Shootings: an excuse to have a police state where personal firearms are restricted and even banned

But Canis, people want to be safe.

Uncle Ben Franklin says 'if you give up freedom for safety, you deserve neither.'

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm glad that you now understand why the 2nd Amendment and unrestricted access to arms by the law abiding public is so improtant for the protection of all liberties.

-Gryph

[BadBoyBenny]

WTF are you talking about? Do you live in one of these neighborhoods? Where do you live? Do you know what distinctions the residents do and don't make? Did you even look up the crime rates of New Haven compared to these cities that you think are so much worse? Why does the color of my skin matter?