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Re: I think I finally learning
Do you usually 3-bet pf with KQo after a limp and a raise?
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Re: I think I finally learning
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Do you usually 3-bet pf with KQo after a limp and a raise? [/ QUOTE ] 5 handed? 100% of the time. |
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[ QUOTE ] Do you usually 3-bet pf with KQo after a limp and a raise? [/ QUOTE ] 5 handed? 100% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't it be read dependent? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you usually 3-bet pf with KQo after a limp and a raise? [/ QUOTE ] 5 handed? 100% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't it be read dependent? [/ QUOTE ] Not usually. It's a default play of mine. Sure there are times when I CC with KQ/AJ and there are times when I fold AJ/KQ to a raise but these times are rare and 98% of the time, it's 3 bets with KQ/AJo |
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Do you usually 3-bet pf with KQo after a limp and a raise? [/ QUOTE ] If you're comfortable 3betting AJ, you should definitely be 3betting KQ. |
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I like the river bet by itself, but I think the turn is much more interesting. I don't like it. Look at the board. All PPs are calling. All Aces are calling with the gutshot/overcard outs.
Now I'm trying to think how else to play the hand. Check/calling the turn and bet/folding a river blank doesn't seem like it will ever work. Is firing a turn bet and planning on firing a blank river worth it in a pot this size, given that a PP calls both, A high might call both (AK and AQ almost always will), and his hand might hit? At the same time I don't know if I like giving up. I'll have to think about it some more. Any reads? That might help. |
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I like the river bet by itself, but I think the turn is much more interesting. I don't like it. Look at the board. All PPs are calling. All Aces are calling with the gutshot/overcard outs. [/ QUOTE ] This is true and part of the reason I posted the hand. I do feel that the turn and river are a combined play b/c one sets up ther other. Many hands that villain will hold will call the turn but fold the river UI. If I give up the lead on the turn I have almost no chance of winning the pot. If the gut shot wasn't there, a case could be made for c/ring the the turn but in this case I don't like that line. I feel that I could prolly get hands like KJ, KQ, QJs to fold the turn but I'm far ahead of them that it doesn't matter too much if they fold. The real problem is that they can bet the turn and it leaves me in a tough spot for the rest of the hand. On top of that, if I check the turn, I can't hope to fold hands like Ax on the river |
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I understand the dilemna, I just don't know if this pot is worth it given his range, the chances of already being beat and A high calling down anyway. Though you could spike a K or Q I guess.
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The pot is almost 5bbs, thats a pretty decent sized pot
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The pot is almost 5bbs, thats a pretty decent sized pot [/ QUOTE ] But you're almost always investing 2 bets to win it. And since it's a decent size pot, A high's are more likely to call down. You also get popped some of the time of the turn, too. That's important to note. |
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