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09-26-2005, 10:04 PM
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QQ early - a fold?
PokerStars Game #2668969118: Tournament #12956673, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/09/26 - 22:00:49 (ET)
Table '12956673 247' Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: GodMaster (1520 in chips) Seat 2: bikerfett (1650 in chips) Seat 3: AlphaWice (1490 in chips) Seat 4: nealster (420 in chips) Seat 5: Lola_G (1420 in chips) Seat 6: cobratomato (2470 in chips) Seat 7: Toaster11 (1380 in chips) Seat 8: SIMDOG11 (1820 in chips) Seat 9: imtheahole (1290 in chips) nealster: posts small blind 10 Lola_G: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to AlphaWice [Qh Qs] cobratomato: folds Toaster11: calls 20 SIMDOG11: calls 20 imtheahole: raises 60 to 80 GodMaster: folds bikerfett: folds AlphaWice: calls 80 nealster: folds Lola_G: folds Toaster11: raises 100 to 180 SIMDOG11: folds imtheahole: raises 100 to 280 AlphaWice: folds result later 
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#4
09-26-2005, 10:15 PM
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Re: QQ early - a fold?
One of those knuckleheads at least as AK, but you would have had better info IMHO if you had reraised preflop to 200 or so. So yeah, I fold it preflop - too early for likely coinflips with AK plus you might also be up against KK or AA.
EDIT: now that i see your $3 buyin reply, you likely have the best hand!!! I bet they showed something like A9 and 88! LOL EDIT #2 (yes, my final answer): So good fold preflop!!!
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#7
09-26-2005, 10:49 PM
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Re: QQ early - a fold?
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[ QUOTE ] wow, no, definitely not too early for coinflips especially with the money in already. Push. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, no kidding. And you are on the good side of the coinflip with QQ. [/ QUOTE ] The way the hand played out - limper who reraises, original raiser who reraises the limp/RR play - you're likely up against KK, AA, or AK. Two of those hands you are in big trouble to and you have 2 opponents sending warning bells versus just one so even a more clear fold IMHO. But at a cheap tourney like this one, I probably get it all in preflop as well since plenty of those players will still pull those plays with less than AK. Am I the only one who avoids coinflips early? All for them later on when the pots are bigger though and it's time for the final table or bust.
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#8
09-26-2005, 10:51 PM
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Re: QQ early - a fold?
I'm way more likely to take a coinflip now than when it's close to the FT.
At the begining of a tournament your buyin is worht anywhere from 50% to 400% more than what you paid for it... Near the bubble it's way way higher. Which would you want to coinflip at?
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#9
09-26-2005, 10:54 PM
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Re: QQ early - a fold?
Definitaly gotta fold this one. Anytime you get a limp reraise, with a min raise, at this buy in its aces, although if you were completing and could see the flop i would call. Now if utg raises 300 instantly and another guy pushes you are up against competing A-6 and call instantly.
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#10
09-27-2005, 11:25 AM
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Re: QQ early - a fold?
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PokerStars Game #2668969118: Tournament #12956673, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/09/26 - 22:00:49 (ET) Table '12956673 247' Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: GodMaster (1520 in chips) Seat 2: bikerfett (1650 in chips) Seat 3: AlphaWice (1490 in chips) Seat 4: nealster (420 in chips) Seat 5: Lola_G (1420 in chips) Seat 6: cobratomato (2470 in chips) Seat 7: Toaster11 (1380 in chips) Seat 8: SIMDOG11 (1820 in chips) Seat 9: imtheahole (1290 in chips) nealster: posts small blind 10 Lola_G: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to AlphaWice [Qh Qs] cobratomato: folds Toaster11: calls 20 SIMDOG11: calls 20 imtheahole: raises 60 to 80 GodMaster: folds bikerfett: folds AlphaWice: calls 80 nealster: folds Lola_G: folds Toaster11: raises 100 to 180 SIMDOG11: folds imtheahole: raises 100 to 280 AlphaWice: folds result later [/ QUOTE ] I'd call one of your opponents an dumbass, fold, and wait for 2-4 offsuit. Brad
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