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Old 02-15-2005, 09:36 PM
bear187 bear187 is offline
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Default AK against flush board

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls, Button folds.

River: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins 9 BB. </font>

Good fold? Or weak-tight? I dunno why I didn't just call, but after seeing the A come up I'm kinda glad I didn't. I just had a gut feeling he had the flush made. The check, then all of the sudden coming alive. And against 3 people, I didn't think that there was a possibility of TPTK being any good. Thoughts on this?
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:40 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: AK against flush board

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Good fold? Or weak-tight? I dunno why I didn't just call, but after seeing the A come up I'm kinda glad I didn't. I just had a gut feeling he had the flush made. The check, then all of the sudden coming alive. And against 3 people, I didn't think that there was a possibility of TPTK being any good. Thoughts on this?

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Weak tight!
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: AK against flush board

You call then raise/call rr the river?
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:49 PM
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You call then raise/call rr the river?

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Yeah, most likely. I think going for an over call on the river wouldn't be to bad either.
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Old 02-15-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: AK against flush board

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I just had a gut feeling he had the flush made.

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I don't think this is a good indicator of the correct play in most circumstances. And certainly not in online play without an incredibly strong read (beyond stats).
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Old 02-15-2005, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: AK against flush board

There's quite a bit of players who bet when they get flush draws. This is pretty weak.
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:33 AM
SeeWillie SeeWillie is offline
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Default Re: AK against flush board

Without any reads, I respect SB here, betting into the PF raiser and flop bettor. Looks like he made his flush or hit his 99 set. I would rather raise the turn and fold to a 3bet than call the turn. If SB just calls the raise, good chance for a free showdown on the river. If not, I might fold the River UI.

I notice the pot is pretty small here, so the fold wasn't terrible.
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:04 AM
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I would rather raise the turn and fold to a 3bet than call the turn. If SB just calls the raise, good chance for a free showdown on the river. If not, I might fold the River UI.


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I wouldn't.

Why not go for overcalls?

You want to see showdown as cheaply as possible with TPTK. Calling both turn &amp; river costs you 2 bets the same as raise/fold on the turn. Why not see showdown?

Also if villan calls the raise why are we going for a free showdown again?
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