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Old 04-30-2005, 06:26 PM
FlFishOn FlFishOn is offline
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Default The opposite of rake back

Party and all skins get together and run their player database and pull out these players: Longterm winners (a steady cash-out trail) that multi-table. Each player is given a simple choice, you now pay quadruple rake or your account is closed. You choose.

If I was in charge I'd consider it. Where you gonna go? You wanna play in my well stocked fish pond I want you to pay your fair share.

There would be a serious gnome stampeed but that's not gonna get it done long term. You will find it difficult to open new Neteller etc. accounts every two months. As a winning multi-tabler you leave a data footprint that's damn easy to spot.

Think of what happens at Party. The fish now bleed their chips off to the site instead of the multi-leaches or the leaches cough up a little kickback. It's the American way!
The fish will also have better games, likely boosting the site overall.

Feel free to construct your own nightmare.
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Old 04-30-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

A big question facing the industry is "What is the biggest constraint on play, time or money?"

If its money, then your scenario and any that limit winners make some sense. If its time, however, any site pushes away the high volume multitablers will really hurt itself.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:04 PM
archmagi archmagi is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

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any site pushes away the high volume multitablers will really hurt itself.

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but the argument is that the multitablers won't leave, because they have to play where the fishes are.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:08 PM
FlFishOn FlFishOn is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

"But the argument is that the multitablers won't leave, because they have to play where the fishes are. "

Just so. How much would a $80K / year winner kick back in order to secure his income stream? It's easy to figure if you can quantify the value of his 2nd choice. I think it might be as much as 20 - 30%.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:09 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

Of course there is a point where the expected return of playing against poor players isn't worth the extra rake.

Besides this, the fishyness of Party is vastly overrated. Many high volume players would earn as much on Prima and Crypto.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

"Besides this, the fishyness of Party is vastly overrated."

Certainly true but where else can you play as many tables as easily? A large portion of Party's attraction is the volume of hands that can be played per hour.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:26 PM
sumdumguy sumdumguy is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

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A big question facing the industry is "What is the biggest constraint on play, time or money?"

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More often entertainment money is the issue. If budget were not an issue, recs with little time play higher limits.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:28 PM
Girchuck Girchuck is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

Oh, yeah? You forward this email to your favorite newspaper, and eventually its on the 6 o'clock news and 60 minutes. Party goes down in flames for extortion as fishes who see the news leave in droves.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:38 PM
Non_Comformist Non_Comformist is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

I would play somewhere else without a second thought.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:41 PM
FlFishOn FlFishOn is offline
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Default Re: The opposite of rake back

Not so fast.

You're on vacation in South Africa. You want to go swimming. One hotel has a nice beach, no frills. The next hotel has a huge anti-shark fence 100 meters off shore. You pick.
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