Follow up to the big discussion yesterday!

[Rolen]

#Game No : 1812113369
***** Hand History for Game 1812113369 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:10818543 Level:7 Blinds(200/400) - Tuesday, March 29, 10:15:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 13852 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: Perrin ( $1230 )
Seat 9: RolenOnRiver ( $1518 )
Seat 8: thientai99 ( $1244 )
Seat 6: sef6911 ( $4008 )
Trny:10818543 Level:7
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RolenOnRiver [ Kc Ad ]
Perrin folds.
sef6911 raises [2300].
thientai99 folds.
RolenOnRiver..

What do you do?

EDIT : I should probably provide some table reads, since I was multi-tabling I didn't have a strong one but hadn't noticed him being particularly aggressive, at least, not for a big stack.

[Voltron87]

Go all in.

[microbet]

I'd be interested to see if anyone says fold.

Seems like an easy call to me. You are by no means guaranteed 3rd place here.

[yeau2]

Well, if you feel that the other two are dumb enough to get knocked out and your playing the waiting game I am o k with folding. But otherwise, it looks like he raised to 2300 to make sure he covered both the blinds stacks. This tells me he feels his K or A rag suited is probably the best hand and he wants to push out anyone getting fancy, or that he wnats to push with a smaller pair and avoid a race. Regardless, I calling is absolutely a plus EV here.

[Rolen]

I folded. He flipped a pair of Qs. A few steals later..

#Game No : 1812118664
***** Hand History for Game 1812118664 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:10818543 Level:8 Blinds(250/500) - Tuesday, March 29, 10:19:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 13852 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 9: RolenOnRiver ( $4840 )
Seat 6: sef6911 ( $3160 )
Trny:10818543 Level:8
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RolenOnRiver [ As 5d ]
RolenOnRiver raises [750].
sef6911 calls [500].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, Jc, 4d ]
sef6911 bets [1000].
RolenOnRiver is all-In [3840]
sef6911 calls [1160].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
>You have options at Table 14437 Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
sef6911 shows [ 7h, Jh ] a pair of jacks.
RolenOnRiver shows [ As, 5d ] a pair of aces.
sef6911 finished in second place and won $60.
RolenOnRiver wins 8000 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
Table Closed

[pooh74]

so, because of the eventual outcome of the game you feel vindicated as to your decision to fold AK.

Let me let u in on a little secret...if I am bigstack in your game, I am raising with 72 w/ 4 left...or who the hell knows...

the blinds are 400 and you lay down AK heads up? (I cant make out from your post who was what...were u the BB? Try using the converter)

I cant even believe im repsonding to this...unless there was some other circumstance that is not clear from the HH u posted, then I am clueless...

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
I folded. He flipped a pair of Qs. A few steals later..


[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, well case closed then. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

eastbay

[Rolen]

'Let me let u in on a little secret...if I am bigstack in your game, I am raising with 72 w/ 4 left...or who the hell knows...'

You mean you don't do that to everyone else?

[Rolen]

'the blinds are 400 and you lay down AK heads up? (I cant make out from your post who was what...were u the BB? Try using the converter)'

Hell no, we're 4 handed with 2 smaller stacks

[Voltron87]

This is an easy push, I don't see why you posted it. You are ahead of a large portion of his holdings and even if you are 50 50 you can't pass this up because you are BB and don't have time to wait for a better spot (since Ax Kx is so likely). And posting later that he had QQ and you went on to win the tourney has nothing to do with whether the hand is a push. I push this 100%, case closed.