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Old 12-20-2005, 07:51 AM
DonButtons DonButtons is offline
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Make it 24 PF. Either fold or reraise all-in on flop all in. If he's not a nit, i'm probably all in here. He'll show you slick with Ks, 55 or 99 often enough. If you raise more PF, you raise the possibility of the aforementioned hands and lower poss of KsQs or 7s8s.

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I agree with the 24 min preflop.

But a limper showing AK with the spade, lol!

Given the action, limping, Id say he has like 76s 78s etc, and flopped it.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:27 AM
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tech,

my standard bring-in is $16 w/o limpers. why no adjustment for limpers?
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:32 PM
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tech,

my standard bring-in is $16 w/o limpers. why no adjustment for limpers?

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I normally use the Daliman formula which would be a raise of $28 to $32.

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You're not raising enough with your premium hands, and giving too much odds to run you down.

Remember this as your raising formula preflop at all times, unless you are specifically trapping/milking, or are putting in more than 4)5 of your stack by rasising, whereby you may as well push, unless you specifically want action;

3xBB + 2x limpers or raisers total=proper raise size.

Therefore, on your fateful KK hand, 3xBB =60 + 5 limpers for 20 equaling 100 total, so 100x2= 200

200+60=260 proper raise size

If A2 wants to call 240 more, god bless 'em.

But also, once that flop hits, NOW your pot sized bet with two limpers is all in. Much tougher call with a gutshot and one overcard only, but I 've seen way worse.

This is also a quick and dirty way to get approximately pot sized raises preflop, always confusing for me before.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:27 AM
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Make it 24 PF. Either fold or reraise all-in on flop all in. If he's not a nit, i'm probably all in here. He'll show you slick with Ks, 55 or 99 often enough. If you raise more PF, you raise the possibility of the aforementioned hands and lower poss of KsQs or 7s8s.

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I agree with the 24 min preflop.

But a limper showing AK with the spade, lol!

Given the action, limping, Id say he has like 76s 78s etc, and flopped it.

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buttons,

do you call the flop raise or muck?
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:15 PM
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Maulik,

call > muck
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