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Old 09-26-2005, 08:07 PM
stokken stokken is offline
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Default What do u do here?

PS 11 r down to 100 outa 700

Blinds are 600/1200 75 ante

I have a stack of 69K

EP1 KK just moved tables, but havent played a hand in a long time.
I raise 4xbb , MP with stack 16k goes all in, LP (45K)calls.

Do u call behind, raise or would u fold?
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: What do u do here?

Push. You have KK, so you figure to be best, and there's no reason to slowplay here. Dead money's very appealing, and a call'd be nice too.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:13 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Default Re: What do u do here?

BABY!
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: What do u do here?

Shove it in.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:35 PM
stokken stokken is offline
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Default Re: What do u do here?

So no one thinks there are really only two possibilities here. You are either ahead of QQ or behind AA with 2/3 of your stack on the bet?
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: What do u do here?

Nope, I don't think that at all, and more importantly, trying to identify the one time per month when you can be confident enough to lay down KK preflop is not nearly as important as addressing any number of other issues with your game. Just stop worrying about it.
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:35 PM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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Default Re: What do u do here?

I really think this is a very interesting hand here as I can't see any good player flat calling a 4x raise, a push for ~14BB, with anything other than AA's. The problem here is you have absolutely no read on villain. You have an M of close to 30 which lets me fold here and live with the decision even though your getting great pot odds. The problem here is if you call you may as well push as you'll be getting close to 3-1 on the flop if you check and he shoves and 4-1 if you bet and he pushes. I hate to say this but this would be one of the few times I lay KK's down unless my read on villain was he was a maniac.
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