Good bluff or just stupid?

[Ben Therre]

Thanks reecelights, well put. What I was looking for was the size of my reraise. I truely couldn't put sadie on anything but a bluff but I think a min reraise on my part would have been the correct play and at the same time produce her to fold.
Thanks again

EDIT: It took her less than a second to fold

[Brad F.]

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Thanks reecelights, well put. What I was looking for was the size of my reraise. I truely couldn't put sadie on anything but a bluff but I think a min reraise on my part would have been the correct play and at the same time produce her to fold.
Thanks again

EDIT: It took her less than a second to fold

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Can you now admit that you just posted this hand to gloat supposed brilliance instead of for discussion?

[Ben Therre]

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Can you now admit that you just posted this hand to gloat supposed brilliance instead of for discussion?

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Thanks for popping my bubble. But at the same time when any player feels or knows that they can steal or resteal and fails to do so, then I believe there truly lies the mistake.
I've won my share of MTT's and will continue to do so. Thanks for the input and sorry I took some of it personnel.
GL

[tiger7210]

Absolutely horrible and reckless to risk all your chips here with maybe 4 outs if the loose fish that you know nothing about calls here with QJ/KQ/flush draw or some other crappy hand that they feel they can't fold with a chance to double up if they hit. If you are going to make this move at least you want to have a chance to make a hand if called and you do it for a pot that is worth making a move on.

[JC_Saves]

are you serious? this is just stupid since that is the what you asked.

if you can't see why, then it will make no sense to you to explain why.

[Ben Therre]

Okay okay....I get the picture. You all can stop kicking me in the ass now. I suck, I'm worthless and you all hope I'm sitting to your right in the next MTT you play. Except for Pat...he's sending me to the WSOP. By the way, congrats on your first MTT win.

[joeboe2001]

Sadielady is the one who deserves the criticism. If her hand was worth a $225TC raise after your weak call, it was worth calling your all in.

Can't blame you for taking advantage of her.

[joeboe2001]

1. It is the first hand, you have no reads.

YES, he has reads. He knows what the pool of players is
like at the beginning of MTTs, and knows there is a good
chance that, however risky, a play like this will rake
in a few hundred chips for him, which can be a
tremendous advantage, PROVIDING he doesn't continue this
LAG play.

2. It is the first hand. You have plenty of time to build your stack.

There is no time like the present. What would you pay
for a few hundred extra TCs at the beginning of an MTT?

3. It is the first hand. If you get pegged as a LAG and keep making these plays you will get caught sooner, rather than later, and blow the few chips you have just won.

If he gets pegged as a LAG early he can work it to his
advantage later--as long as he knows he's playing like
a LAG.

4. It is the first hand. You all have the same stack size. IF you already had a larger stack, reads on a tight medium-stacked player who you knew was capable of making a big lay-down -or- on a LAG you had a strong read on and were then sure he was bluffing, and had an image as a tight player yourself, THEN, this resteal might be considered a good play.

See number 1, above!

5. The fact that he/she folded is the only way you can justify your play. If "sadie" called and showed you a slow-played set of Tens, would you still insist it was a good play?

What is a good play if it is not one that has a
positive outcome?

6. It is the first hand. Risking your entire stack on a gutshot draw on hand 1 is not generally accepted Multi-Table Strategy.

Also see number 1, above. If people like the woman
who folded insist on contributing their funds to the
prize pools of MTTs they have no business playing in,
why should this NOT be "generally acceptable MTT
strategy?"

You are all reacting to this play like Menh the Magnificent did when he got busted by an Internet Player in the early goings of last year's WSOP. Ye who refuse to adapt...

Your play was not, to quote the title of your OP "stupid" until you consider the circumstances of when you made this move, which was, in most opinions, ill advised.

[illegit]

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What is a good play if it is not one that has a
positive outcome?


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Try 'a play that expects to have a positive outcome if made many times'. i.e. not this one.

[joeboe2001]

Au contraire. A semi brilliant play, because he is taking advantage of the fact that villain has no read on him!!! The fact that she threw her 225TC in the pot made this worth the risk--she was a fool NOT to call, unless, of course, she didn't have cards to back up her raise.