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Old 12-23-2005, 03:14 PM
disjunction disjunction is offline
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Default Re: dear God when will it end?

Congratulations. You have discovered the fact that panhandlers make more money than they would if they didn't panhandle.

Now the only question is hourly rate.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:31 PM
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Congratulations. You have discovered the fact that panhandlers make more money than they would if they didn't panhandle.

Now the only question is hourly rate.

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You just made my point. Of course they make money at it, but it's still pathetic, just like putting the stupid styrofoam cup out on the counter at Starbucks. There are a lot of things one can do for money if he's really pathetic. For instance, I'll give you $20 to eat some dog poo. You'll have money, but you'll also still be pathetic.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:37 PM
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You just made my point. Of course they make money at it, but it's still pathetic, just like putting the stupid styrofoam cup out on the counter at Starbucks. There are a lot of things one can do for money if he's really pathetic. For instance, I'll give you $20 to eat some dog poo. You'll have money, but you'll also still be pathetic.

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I said "if it's a close situation". Is eating dog poo a close situation? Panhandling might be if the money means something to you. I'm sure that the money in the tip jar means something to the workers. Enough that they probably wouldn't sweat a thread or two in OOT.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:40 PM
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I said "if it's a close situation". Is eating dog poo a close situation? Panhandling might be if the money means something to you. I'm sure that the money in the tip jar means something to the workers. Enough that they probably wouldn't sweat a thread or two in OOT.

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Anything so pathetic as begging inappropriately for money (ie. putting a cup on a Starbucks counter) is not close.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:45 PM
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Anything so pathetic as begging inappropriately for money (ie. putting a cup on a Starbucks counter) is not close.

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You must have either a lot of money or a very low tolerance for people looking down on you.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:49 PM
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You must have either a lot of money or a very low tolerance for people looking down on you.

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Not really. I just have a sense of what is an appropriate way to earn a living versus begging. As I said, doing this is pretty much the same thing as panhandling, which I also don't do. Not because I care what strangers think of me for doing it, but because I care what I would think of me for doing it.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:56 PM
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The tip jars on the counters at Starbucks aren't there to tempt those of you who normally don't tip to tip. They're there because a good number of regular customers like to tip. Its become such a part of their everyday routine, that they just tip the dollar no matter what. Now, if you wanna look at the tip jar, and be like, LOL not in a million years, that's up to you. But if you think, for a second, that any of us that work at Starbucks are gonna give up free money - especially this time of year - you've gotta be outta your goddamn mind.

Customers aren't expected to tip. Sure, the baristas would like you to tip, but Starbucks doesn't pay horribly for the kind of work we do, so its not like we're struggling for our tips. Tips are beer money. Tips are - hey, you're cute, here's a buck. Or, hey, you're always polite, make conversation with me, and make me feel like Im not just another customer... here's $.50 everyday. If you went to the same McDonalds everyday for a month, do you think Miguel would go to the trouble of chatting with you, getting your name, knowing what you liked to eat... even having it ready before you were done paying?

People tip at Starbucks because Starbucks generally takes care of its regular customers. I've even had people aghast that our credit card reciepts didnt have a line for them to tip on.

Not putting out that cup is akin to saying no to an extra $1.50/hr (or more, depending on the location of the store) per person in every store. Why should the employees turn that down because some people want to look down on it?

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