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Push 17 27.87%
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  #31  
Old 07-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Popinjay Popinjay is offline
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I thought that the right answer is affect, but Im functionally illiterate, but if you cut and paste the paragraph into MS word, its is a grammar error, and gives affect as the correct answer.

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Proof that effect is the right answer.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:04 PM
Jernau Jernau is offline
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I voted affect. To effect a physical state would mean to cause it, while to affect a physical state would mean to influence/change it. Yes? It seems clear to me that talking about affecting a physical state is what would be "standard" here.

Another story is that if you meant effect when you wrote effect, then effect is the correct word to use. Yet another story is that I can't see how your statement can be anything but wrong.

Oh well, why am I replying. English is not even my first language.

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Old 07-12-2005, 12:37 PM
Stephen Gray Stephen Gray is offline
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Default Why Veen didn\'t lose and you owe him $1000

<BusterStx> whichever is correct according to college level english wins 1k
<BusterStx> deal?
<vanveen> ok
<vanveen> yes
<Marnix> lol @ bet
<BusterStx> post it
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:37 PM
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if you're having trouble try putting a synonym in the sentence.

affect = influence
effect = result

which one makes more sense? obviously affect. it's funny to hear all the people who not only staunchly defend the wrong answer but call everyone who is right a moron.

final answer = affect
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:40 PM
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The clear answer is that the sentence is poorly written.

Just say 'create'.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:42 PM
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it is a closed causal system

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if you're having trouble try putting a synonym in the sentence.

affect = influence
effect = result

which one makes more sense? obviously affect. it's funny to hear all the people who not only staunchly defend the wrong answer but call everyone who is right a moron.

final answer = affect

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repeat after me:

CAUSE and ...

EFFECT
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:43 PM
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repeat after me:

CAUSE and ...

EFFECT


Yeah, that cleared things right up, champ.

Usage Note: Affect and effect have no senses in common. As a verb affect is most commonly used in the sense of “to influence” (how smoking affects health). Effect means “to bring about or execute”: layoffs designed to effect savings. Thus the sentence These measures may affect savings could imply that the measures may reduce savings that have already been realized, whereas These measures may effect savings implies that the measures will cause new savings to come about.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:44 PM
Grisgra Grisgra is offline
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if you're having trouble try putting a synonym in the sentence.

affect = influence
effect = bring into being, create

which one makes more sense? obviously effect. it's funny to hear all the people who not only staunchly defend the wrong answer but call everyone who is right a moron.

final answer = effect

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FYP
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:47 PM
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go back to jr high english please. "It is a closed causal system." is one sentence and has no bearing on the use affect/effect. the guy used bad punctuation because he just did which is fine--he's typing to a buddy.

the real sentence is "Mental states cannot affect physical states."
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:51 PM
Marnixvdb Marnixvdb is offline
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go back to jr high english please. "It is a closed causal system." is one sentence and has no bearing on the use affect/effect. the guy used bad punctuation because he just did which is fine--he's typing to a buddy.

the real sentence is "Mental states cannot affect physical states."

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both words to affect/to effect have a different meaning. The 'closed causal system' gives you a context, just as the word 'instantiate', with a similar meaning as 'to effect'. You may be able to use both words, resulting in two sentences with a different meaning, but from the context, it is clear 'Effect' is the only right word to use.
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