3/6 SH, 12 hands for review.

[winky51]

*** Just can't seem to win anything at SH 3/6, not losing just not making good money.
*** I win 2-3 sessions at 2-4 BB per 100, then have a super unlucky session with average of 40-48% win at showdown.

Take a look at my hands plz, my stats. What am I missing? Blind play is where I suspect.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848702125 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is UTG with Ac As (6 Players)
]HERO raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls,

Flop: (10.00 SB) 9s Js 6h (5 Players)
SB bets, BB calls,HERO calls, UTG+1 raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls,HERO raises, UTG+1 calls, SB calls, BB calls,

Turn: (11.00 BB) 2d (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks,HERO bets, UTG+1 raises, SB is all-In, BB calls,HERO calls,

River: (18.00 BB) 3s (4 Players)
BB bets,HERO folds, UTG+1 calls,

Final Pot: 16.38 BB


*** Normally I don't fold here but this idiot called all the way down to bet on the end, so its kinda obvious what he has. He doesnt bluff. I'm sure all of you will say to call here but I knew he had the flush. Bet saved is a bet earned.


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848289009 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is Button with KdAd (4 Players)
UTG+1 calls,HERO raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls,

Flop: (6.33 SB) 4c 8s 9c (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets,HERO folds, BB calls,

Turn: (4.17 BB)5d (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, BB calls,

River: (6.17 BB) Jh (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks,

Final Pot: 6.17 BB


*** No point in calling the flop wrong suit, 2 draws, 4 outs with redraws.


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2813596237 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is CO with Ks As (6 Players)
2 folds,HERO raises, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold,

Flop: (7.00 SB) 5s 6h 8s (3 Players)
SB checks,HERO bets, Button calls, SB raises,HERO raises, Button calls, SB calls,

Turn: (8.00 BB) 8c (3 Players)
SB checks,HERO checks, Button checks,

River: (8.00 BB) 2c (3 Players)
SB checks,HERO checks, Button bets, SB calls,HERO folds,

Final Pot: 10.00 BB


*** DIdn't want to get check raised on the turn by some shmo with an eight. And the flop reraiser alredy checked.


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848675952 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is SB with As Kc (6 Players)
4 folds,HERO raises, BB calls,

Flop: (4.00 SB) 7h 5h 5c (2 Players)
]HERO bets, BB raises,HERO calls,

Turn: (4.00 BB) Js (2 Players)
]HERO checks, BB bets,HERO calls,

River: (6.00 BB) Kh (2 Players)
]HERO checks, BB bets,HERO calls,

Final Pot: 8.00 BB

*** Don't see how I can fold this here with 2 draws on the board. Player is typical so capable of anything. Of course the K comes on the river. He could have 2 draws or a 7 here, thoughts?


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848311458 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is UTG+1 with Kd As (6 Players)
UTG calls,HERO raises, 3 folds, BB raises, UTG calls,HERO raises, BB calls, UTG calls,

Flop: (12.33 SB)Qd 5h5d (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks,HERO bets, BB calls, UTG calls,

Turn: (7.67 BB)Ad (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks,HERO checks,

River: (7.67 BB) 4h (3 Players)
BB bets, UTG folds,HERO calls,

Final Pot: 9.67 BB


sweetybear calls [$6].

*** Just didn't see betting this turn with all this danger. As you can see I was drawing dead. Also my spidey sense was going off with all these flop callers.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848275579 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is UTG with Ah Ks (5 Players)
]HERO raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds,

Flop: (5.33 SB) 6cQd 3s (2 Players)
]HERO bets, Button calls,

Turn: (3.67 BB) 2c (2 Players)
]HERO bets, Button raises,HERO folds,

Final Pot: 6.67 BB

*** Non-tricky opponent. Did see any reason to call the turn.


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848255621 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is UTG with Ad Ks (5 Players)
]HERO raises, 2 folds, SB raises, 1 fold,HERO raises, SB calls,

Flop: (9.00 SB) 9cTd Qc (2 Players)
SB bets,HERO raises, SB raises,HERO calls,

Turn: (7.50 BB)5d (2 Players)
SB bets,HERO folds,

Final Pot: 8.50 BB


*** Just didnt see drawing vs 2 flush draws here with only 3 safe outs.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2848239730 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is SB with Ac Ks (5 Players)
UTG raises, 2 folds,HERO raises, 1 fold, UTG calls,

Flop: (7.00 SB) Jh 3h 4c (2 Players)
]HERO bets, UTG raises,HERO calls,

Turn: (5.50 BB)Td (2 Players)
]HERO bets, UTG calls,

River: (7.50 BB)5d (2 Players)
]HERO checks, UTG bets,HERO calls,

Final Pot: 9.50 BB


*** 2 draws on the board. Wasn't sure if the river call was correct considering. Can't bluff on the end hes calling with any pair.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2813534181 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is CO with Ac Kh (6 Players)
1 fold, UTG+1 calls,HERO raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls,

Flop: (6.33 SB) 3c Th 2h (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks,HERO bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds,

Turn: (4.17 BB) 8s (2 Players)
BB checks,HERO bets, BB calls,

River: (6.17 BB) Tc (2 Players)
BB bets,HERO calls,

Final Pot: 8.17 BB


*** Once again draw and low cards. Whats the chance he has a ten. Call on the end?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2813431074 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is Button with Kc As (6 Players)
3 folds,HERO raises, SB calls, 1 fold,

Flop: (5.00 SB) 6s 4h 3s (2 Players)
SB bets,HERO raises, SB calls,

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6c (2 Players)
SB checks,HERO bets, SB raises,HERO folds,

Final Pot: 7.50 BB


*** Had a feeling I should have checked this turn. The flop raise was for 2 overs, 2 backdoors, 35% to win by river my guess.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2806838335 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is Button with AsKd (6 Players)
1 fold, CO raises,HERO raises, 2 folds, CO calls,

Flop: (7.33 SB)3d 4c Qh (2 Players)
CO checks,HERO bets, CO calls,

Turn: (4.67 BB) 8h (2 Players)
CO checks,HERO bets, CO raises,HERO folds,

Final Pot: 7.67 BB


*** Again got nothing and this player was a fish

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em
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- - - HAND 2813621507 - - -
PreFlop:HERO is BB with JdAd (6 Players)
UTG calls, 3 folds, SB raises,HERO raises, UTG calls, SB raises,HERO calls, UTG calls,

Flop: (12.00 SB) Qs Js4d (3 Players)
SB bets,HERO raises, UTG folds, SB calls,

Turn: (8.00 BB) 9h (2 Players)
SB checks,HERO checks,

River: (8.00 BB) 5c (2 Players)
SB bets,HERO calls,

Final Pot: 10.00 BB


*** I figure 1st player has me beat but by raising I get rid of the 2nd. Increasing my chance to win with the 2 backdoors. Check the turn to not get check raises and call the river. Thoughts?


Its getting really annoying having normal winning nights of 2-4 BB per 100 to lose in one night the last 3 days profits to shmucks.

Here are my 3/6 SH stats. What am I missing here. Blind play?

Since 8/1/2005
Hands 9,851
VPIP 20.16
VPIP from SB 24.33
FOLD SB to steal 91.93
FOLD BB to steal 67.38
FOLD VV to steal HU 67.38 (dropped down in last month as I am calling more)
Steal 26.9%
Won $ WSF 39.36
BB per 100 +0.24
Went to SD 33%
Won at SD 54%
PRF 13.91%
AFs
PF 1.65
Flop 3.87
Turn 3.20
River 1.19
TOTAL 2.25
Fold to river bet 33.16%

[wackjob]

If you post more than 2 or sometimes 3 hands in a single post, I don't even bother. I will comment on just about any hand, but not in a big mess like this that makes it a real PITA to look at.

[climber]

yeah i laughed when i saw "12 hands" in the subject line and only clicked on the post to see if someone had really posted 12 hands in one thread. Max is like 3 and thats only cool if they all involve a similar theme. Good luck in your future posts.

[oreogod]

good luck, maybe someone will read all that it.

Well, looking at your stats for 6max tables, I am pretty sure you are playing too tight. your vpip is roughly 20%, which is acceptable for a 10 handed game, but way too tight for a 6 handed game. your vpip should be more in the range of 25-33%. loosen up for the 6max game and I am guessing you will see an improvement in your bb/100. Also, remember that players are more deceptive in the 6max game, and are more inclined to bluff or call with not-so-great hands.

[winky51]

I know about the VPIP. At one point my see flop was higher than that as was my VPIP. I am looking for excuses to play now but I just cant see calling/reraising raises in the SB with a suited connector like 89s to a CO steal OOP. Or even calling a raise cold with it PF.

Since september it seems the cards are just not there and every raise I face PF I have crap. I pretty much raise of fold when I am 1st in.

EXAMPLE: last night my 1st 30 hands were pure garbage. 83o, j2s, 62s, 93o..... I couldnt play a hand for 3 rounds.

And for those that commented on the 12 hand post. Fine hats why I put it in the header. But if you don't want to comment then dont comment at all, jerks.

[nukemar25]

I was not going to comment but since you decide to come in here and call people jerks I read your first hand. Pot is large with five players on the flop and you have a monster. It is bet into you and you just call with two people left to act? Big leak IMO. You have to raise here everytime, period! You had a perfect opportunity to protect your hand and push people out and possibly gain position for the rest of the hand. The flush draws won't fold but they must pay max price to draw out on you. Your hand is strong but not nearly strong enough to let people stay in the hand cheaply here. Raise the flop!

[witeknite]

Meh, I'll brave it. First off though 10k hands isn't anything at all. But you should at least defend more and steal more.

Hand 1
Why no raise on the flop the first time? I don't think you should be slowplaying at all in large pots multiway. Not sure about the river since the flop was strange.

Hand 2
I at least peel on the flop here. Since there are 2 draws, that increases the probability that someone is betting a draw and you are ahead. A raise might be good here to try to fold out BB. Also you comment about 4 outs. Keep in mind, that is only if he has a pair and a flush draw. If he just has a pair, you are more likely to have 6 outs. If he has a flush draw, you are probably ahead of him. I want to raise the flop, bet the turn if BB folds, and take a free showdown.

Hand 3
I think I bet the turn. You won't always get a free card with button behind you. Also, if you can fold out button, you might be able to check behind on the river.

Hand 4
If you think he's drawing, a turn donk might be good. Yes you should be calling this river w/TP.

Hand 5
What's with the turn check? You have TP + nut flush draw. Bet that sucker every single time. I don't see the results but they don't matter. BTW, people peel the flop with nothing all time hoping to pair up. Don't sweat 2 flop callers.

Hand 6
Turn fold is fine.

Hand 7
Don't worry to much about FD's HU. When facing 4 opponants, flush draws are a concern. HU, it is much more unlikely that he has one. I'm not sure I like the flop raise though. Think about what hands the SB might 3-bet an UTG raise with. You are way behind AA, KK, QQ, TT, 99. You have 3-outs vs. JJ and AQ. You are drawing dead to AJ. Best case scenario is, he has AK for a split, or a lower PP but your reverse implied odds make seeing a showdown terrible.

Hand 8
I think everything looks okay on this one.

Hand 9
I think the river call is good. The board pairing is a bluffers paradise and you'd think you would have raised somewhere with TP.

Hand 10
I check behind on the turn and call most rivers.

Hand 11
Fine.

Hand 12
I don't know about 3-betting a SB riase from BB with AJs. If you are behind the SB, you are likely so far behind that raising out the other guy doesn't gain you much. I can't think of any hands UTG would fold that imporve your chances of winning.

[winky51]

As for that hand, 2 draws tons of callers. Only way to protect is on the turn with a raise. Flop is not going to protect that hand. 4 players, 12 small bets if I raise. If I had a flush draw on the flop after I raise Id call with those odds. Now the turn I can really make them pay for the draw. lets say its 18 small bets (all call) now they have to pay 4 small bets when BB bets. Also if the draws hit the turn I will know and save some money.

[winky51]

Hand 1: I didnt see how I could protect my hand on the flop so I was going to wait till the turn. But since it got raised even the turn Im not protecting so I reraised. Thats what I was thinking

Hand 2 I guess but I feel I need better than 8:1 to call here.

Hand 3 Yup shoulda bet.

Hand 4 You mean a turn bet? I guess that would save the most chips.

Hand 5 Yea I dont know what I was thinking TP + draw bet duh. I have 11 outs for the river.

Hand 6 got one right

Hand 7 I think in this hand I didnt realize he reraise PF because I had a hand on the other table going. Yup I agree.

Hand 10 Why check here vs 1 opponent.
Why in a similar situation (hand 3) I should bet. Seems like the same hand but hand #3 is vs 2 players.

Hand 12 Your right there. Someone raising OOP has something better than me.