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tourny hand
I think calling the completion on 3rd and 4th street were kinda fishy (comments). But how about when I hit two pair on 5th? I was planning on check-calling the river, but when I hit the ace I liked my position a little better and decided to bet out.
Tournament - 7 Card Stud High - Level I (15/30), Ante 2, Bring-In 5 (hand converter) Seat 1: 1,537 Seat 2: 1,091 Seat 3: 3,148 Seat 5: 994 Hero: 1,494 Seat 7: 3,528 Seat 8: 1,708 3rd Street - (0.93 SB) Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls 4th Street - (6.93 SB) Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds 5th Street - (5.47 BB) Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets 6th Street - (7.47 BB) Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets River - (9.47 BB) Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___calls Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets Total pot: 11.47 BB |
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Re: tourny hand
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I think calling the completion on 3rd and 4th street were kinda fishy (comments). [/ QUOTE ] I agree [ QUOTE ] But how about when I hit two pair on 5th? [/ QUOTE ] well, your early mistakes put you in a bad position, because you need to call down with these two pair unless you become obviously beat. The pots two big at this point to justify folding. [ QUOTE ] I was planning on check-calling the river, but when I hit the ace I liked my position a little better and decided to bet out. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure what catching an ace has to do with your "position" - do you mean your relative strength in that your Ace makes it less likely that he started with split aces? I think this is not a good way to look at things. I think check-call is the right move. He's gonna likely fold 1 pair, and if he's got two pair you're probably beat considering all the overcards he's showin. |
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Re: tourny hand
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Not sure what catching an ace has to do with your "position" - do you mean your relative strength in that your Ace makes it less likely that he started with split aces? I think this is not a good way to look at things. [/ QUOTE ] poor choice of words, I meant relative strength |
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Re: tourny hand
I would have raised 3rd. I think if you do that the hand plays out totally differently as some of the riff raff would not have called. I would definitely call the completion at this stage of the tourney too. Once you get your 2 pair I like your chances to win the pot but I still would check-call the river.
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Re: tourny hand
3rd: I would complete
4th: Given the way you played 3rd, this is a fishy play. 5th: Good 6th: Good 7th: Check-Call 100% of the time regardless of you catching the ace because he has played it like he has an ace the whole way and you've still got to think he's got an ace right? I think in this situation you will lose 2 bets MUCH more often than you will gain 1 bet by betting out. |
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Re: tourny hand
thanks for the comments guys. Stud-hi isn't my best game, although luckily I won this hand and managed to pull 10th in the satellite of several hundred (unfortunately only 4th and up won anything).
At the time of the hand I saw the big overcards yet to act and got a little scared, but I think this goes back to some of the posts last week about raising 3rd with JJ9 and being able to fold if reraised by the big card if you're not suited, but seeing 4th if suited. Which does bring a question...Say my hand was JJ8 with the eight suited instead of offsuit as in the actual case. I complete 3rd but get raised by the ace. Do you still call to see fourth as in the JJ9 case? |
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