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Old 10-20-2005, 06:33 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: AK Vs Flush board.

SB and BB together are almost 2:1 not to have any hearts.

Huh? It is 3:2 that there is a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] out there if they have random cards. In reality it will be > 60% that a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is out there. Notice that it is correct for them to check and call on 4th without the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (assuming that they have a flush).
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: AK Vs Flush board.


Yeah you're right- 63:37 one of them will have a heart. I goofed and said 37:63. My bad.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: AK Vs Flush board.

Aimed at no one - So quoting myself.

yeh the turn play is what i question, i folded the river as i figure he was playing the board... but any heart beats me anyhow(2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on board).

Anyhow, the turn play was a tough spot... i thought about free SD but these guys had been folding the turn alot and i seemed to have fair bit of respect at the table for taking down few pots.

Anyhow unfortunatly they didnt fold and i folded to his donk bet on river.

How did you figure the chances they held flush? im sure i calcualted it whilst playing but my brains gone to mush and its late. time to log off.
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: AK Vs Flush board.

There are 46 unseen cards. 37 of them are not [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s.

P(no heart) = 37*36*35*34 / 46*45*44*43 = .404 = ~ 40%
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: AK Vs Flush board.

It is correct to use the hypergeometric distribution in this finite population of 52 cards to calculate the probabilites. Assuming BB's folded hand on the turn contained no hearts we have a total unseen population of 43 cards (N=52-5-2-2=43) of which there are 9 (X=13-5=9) unseen hearts. Villian had 2 chances (n=2) to catch 1 or 2 hearts (x=0,1,or 2) preflop so the probability he holds:

0 heart = 62.1%
1 heart = 33.9%
2 hearts = 4.0%.
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