KK and an A falls on the turn

[moot]

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I don't mean to be a spoiler, but I'll tell you what the villain showed (in white):<font color="white"> 33</font>

I'm still going through hand histories from about 6 months ago and I thought this was an interesting hand. I imagine that the villain had seen me fold a lot and thought he could steal the pot with a check-raise. Little did he know he was up against a donk like me who doesn't know when to quit.

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Makes sense in a way. Judging by the texture of the board and our stats on the villian...

I think a lot of the time he's either folding or check-raising us (with either a monster or a bluff).

[Bodhi]

Right, but if the villain reads me as the kind of player who is disciplined enough to fold for one more bet (and obviously this is true here), then I must find some way to stop his bluffs. Having a pot stolen like this one is a disaster.

[Vagrant]

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Calling a river check-raise here against a typical player is a bad idea, unless you know the Villain is capable of bluff check-raising, in which case you should call.

You are going to see either an Ace, trips, or a boat here 90% of the time against a typical player.

Someone on here(I forget who) said: When was the last time you called a check-raise and won? Bodhi won tonight, but I bet most of the time when he calls a river check-raise he loses, like most of us do.

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Seriously, I don't put it past people to raise KQ KJ OJ JJ QQ TT on the river. Unthinkable to us? yes. Unthinkable to the masses? Not by a long shot. I call the river. and yes i am being elitest.

[Jakesta]

I don't think so. You don't see river-check raises with garbage that often. I think he either calls or folds the vast majority of the time, and if he calls I think you're good here most of the time.

[MrEngenic]

If you are uncomfortable calling a CR on the river, then you should just check behind. I think this whole valuebet thing has gone too far, people don't call with crap as much as SSH says, not on party during reload period anyway.