I just educated a fish, sorry (No to low content)

[Bartman387]

So on another message board I frequent there is a poker thread where people off and on have casual conversation about nothing in particular on the topic of poker. Well today a poster talks about a hand he had at Party where he had trip Q on the flop of KQ3 and was afraid the villain may have had pocket Kings. I then reply by giving a very thorough critique of the hand, telling him the signs that the guy probably did not have KK and at most just had the top pair, by using the betting pattern etc.

This blew his mind and he then explained that he was worried about it because it always seems when he has QQ the other guy has KK and its probably because it is rigged, here is a quote: [ QUOTE ]
Im, starting to get a little suspicious about ppkr.com Sometimes for long periods at a time, Ill never get a hand, and when I do someone always has me beat. I think ppkr.com has associates working the tables so the company can win money, I mean how else do they make money you know?

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I then reply by explaining variance, selective memory etc. and that it has been shown that hands are randomly distributed, etc. and that he should have no worries about the legitimacy of online poker.

He then thanks me for easing his mind and that alot of the things I mentioned make sense. He then says that maybe he should do some reading because theres way more involved in poker than he thought. Now this is where I felt conflicted. Now I realize he has been a total fish to this point and despite this I tell him to read GSIH, I didn't mention 2+2, but I gave him a suggested reading.

I'm torn, should I feel bad for somewhat educating a bad player and helping him stop his losing ways?

Curious what others think and if anyone else have found themselves in this position.

[Tk79]

I think this is the basic idea of the strategy forums here. Post questions and other players will help you become a better player. Right??

[pokerrookie]

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So on another message board I frequent there is a poker thread where people off and on have casual conversation about nothing in particular on the topic of poker. Well today a poster talks about a hand he had at Party where he had trip Q on the flop of KQ3 and was afraid the villain may have had pocket Kings. I then reply by giving a very thorough critique of the hand, telling him the signs that the guy probably did not have KK and at most just had the top pair, by using the betting pattern etc.

This blew his mind and he then explained that he was worried about it because it always seems when he has QQ the other guy has KK and its probably because it is rigged, here is a quote: [ QUOTE ]
Im, starting to get a little suspicious about ppkr.com Sometimes for long periods at a time, Ill never get a hand, and when I do someone always has me beat. I think ppkr.com has associates working the tables so the company can win money, I mean how else do they make money you know?

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I then reply by explaining variance, selective memory etc. and that it has been shown that hands are randomly distributed, etc. and that he should have no worries about the legitimacy of online poker.

He then thanks me for easing his mind and that alot of the things I mentioned make sense. He then says that maybe he should do some reading because theres way more involved in poker than he thought. Now this is where I felt conflicted. Now I realize he has been a total fish to this point and despite this I tell him to read GSIH, I didn't mention 2+2, but I gave him a suggested reading.

I'm torn, should I feel bad for somewhat educating a bad player and helping him stop his losing ways?

Curious what others think and if anyone else have found themselves in this position.

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Someone once helped you, no doubt. Share what you know. He is one player amongst millions. Feel good that you helped him out. I get sick of the seemingly selfish attitudes of people that say you should never ever ever offer advice. In fact, most don't seem to have a problem when it is done away from the table. There is no way your EV went down because you "took one horse to the water." Besides, it is up to him whether he "drinks." Well done.

[Bartman387]

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I get sick of the seemingly selfish attitudes of people that say you should never ever ever offer advice.

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This was at the heart of my post, I dont feel bad that I helped him. SOme people around here get so upset when someone tells someone of 2+2, etc like it is Fight Club or something, that I was curious if this had affected others attitudes about helping those "outside the secret society" that is 2+2.

interesting replies everyone

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SOme people around here get so upset when someone tells someone of 2+2, etc like it is Fight Club or something


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What is the first rule of 2+2???

[itsmarty]

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What is the first rule of 2+2???

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Re-raise.

[Allinlife]

looks like he was open minded and appreciated learning the knowledge.

gj

[jman220]

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SOme people around here get so upset when someone tells someone of 2+2, etc like it is Fight Club or something


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What is the first rule of 2+2???

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fold preflop.

[krazyace5]

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I get sick of the seemingly selfish attitudes of people that say you should never ever ever offer advice.

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This was at the heart of my post, I dont feel bad that I helped him. SOme people around here get so upset when someone tells someone of 2+2, etc like it is Fight Club or something, that I was curious if this had affected others attitudes about helping those "outside the secret society" that is 2+2.

interesting replies everyone

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You are mixing apples and oranges here. Helping someone on a forum is fine , that is what they are for. Helping people at the table during play is stupid. And it is usually so some donk can stroke their own ego.

No one here gives a rats ass if you help your friends or ppl
asking questions on forums.

[SoCalRugger]

I think it's fine. I give my input when poker threads come up on other message boards I visit. There's a big difference between the situation you described, and someone educating fish at the table after taking a bad beat in order to make himself feel superior.