David and Daniel, blah blah blah

[Steve Giufre]

I'm getting tired of all this nonsense. First it was the Psychology forum. It went from a lot of good poker discussion, and turned into a big religious controversy that you were the center of. It would have been fine except a lot of the good posters stopped writing about poker and instead spent all their time responding to the religious threads. So those of us who were trying to learn something here or there lost out.

Now its the WPT forum. Not that this place hasnt always had a fair amount of BS and gossip anyway, but now its way worse than before. Once in while you would see a good poster throw up an interesting topic that was actually related to poker theory or strategy, but now we are seeing less and less of that. Even top pros who have no affiliation with 2+2, Phillips, Cunningham, Greenstien, Duke for a short period of time stopped in to try to help people before they were chased off. I look at every post you have made here lately and 90% of them have had absolutely nothing to do with poker strategy. What is the main reason you are involved with this site? Are you really here to tell us how smart you are, who is stupid, what games you would be better than most top players at? Personally I could care less how good you are at baseball, war, tic tac toe or any other dumbass game. Your latest contribution is a reply to Daniel's offer that you crafted in a way that you can be sure he will not play you. I dont care if you play him or not. But every day it gets a little more like RGP around here and you are contributing to that.

What about this. Since a lot of us here actually want to learn and help each other, why dont you chip in? The mid to high stakes forum is where the most serious posters seem to be, yet I cant remember the last time you posted anything longer than a few lines there. You dont see Mason getting involved in these dink measuring contests do you? He is busy too, but at least he occationally takes the time to answer questions, help others and post an occational hand. I've talked to a few other serious posters about this, and a lot of us feel the same way. One concept we have been discussing is blind defense. Maybe you could address some of these things for us. I will put up a post in Mid to high stakes, and we hope you will respond with a fair amount of detail, and get involed in the thread. Surely it wont take 10% of the effort you have put into all this crap. Help us get better at poker. I really think your contributions should be more strategy related. I'll put up my post shortly and I really hope you come and give us your thoughts so we can all improve our games.

[flair1239]

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What about this. Since a lot of us here actually want to learn and help each other, why dont you chip in? The mid to high stakes forum is where the most serious posters seem to be, yet I cant remember the last time you posted anything longer than a few lines there.

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Yeah, and after your done there spend some time in the small stakes forum. We will happily listen to you tell us how bad you would spank Neagranu and Greestein at Baseball; if you would just share some of your thoughts on 4th street play against a tricky Loose Aggressive player.

[Steve Giufre]

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What about this. Since a lot of us here actually want to learn and help each other, why dont you chip in? The mid to high stakes forum is where the most serious posters seem to be, yet I cant remember the last time you posted anything longer than a few lines there.

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Yeah, and after your done there spend some time in the small stakes forum. We will happily listen to you tell us how bad you would spank Neagranu and Greestein at Baseball; if you would just share some of your thoughts on 4th street play against a tricky Loose Aggressive player.

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Not that there arnt a ton of better posters here than me, but I will start posting there, and I will encourage some of my friends who post in mid high to start responding to posts in that forum also. I hope I didnt come off as selfish or whatever, and only try to get him to share his thoughts with one group of people, I just though asking him to post in mid high might generate the best discussion. Anyhow to show that I am not really out for myself in all this I will start trying to contribute there.

[David Sklansky]

Yes sir.

[MaxPower]

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I'm getting tired of all this nonsense. First it was the Psychology forum. It went from a lot of good poker discussion, and turned into a big religious controversy that you were the center of. It would have been fine except a lot of the good posters stopped writing about poker and instead spent all their time responding to the religious threads. So those of us who were trying to learn something here or there lost out.

Now its the WPT forum. Not that this place hasnt always had a fair amount of BS and gossip anyway, but now its way worse than before. Once in while you would see a good poster throw up an interesting topic that was actually related to poker theory or strategy, but now we are seeing less and less of that. Even top pros who have no affiliation with 2+2, Phillips, Cunningham, Greenstien, Duke for a short period of time stopped in to try to help people before they were chased off. I look at every post you have made here lately and 90% of them have had absolutely nothing to do with poker strategy. What is the main reason you are involved with this site? Are you really here to tell us how smart you are, who is stupid, what games you would be better than most top players at? Personally I could care less how good you are at baseball, war, tic tac toe or any other dumbass game. Your latest contribution is a reply to Daniel's offer that you crafted in a way that you can be sure he will not play you. I dont care if you play him or not. But every day it gets a little more like RGP around here and you are contributing to that.

What about this. Since a lot of us here actually want to learn and help each other, why dont you chip in? The mid to high stakes forum is where the most serious posters seem to be, yet I cant remember the last time you posted anything longer than a few lines there. You dont see Mason getting involved in these dink measuring contests do you? He is busy too, but at least he occationally takes the time to answer questions, help others and post an occational hand. I've talked to a few other serious posters about this, and a lot of us feel the same way. One concept we have been discussing is blind defense. Maybe you could address some of these things for us. I will put up a post in Mid to high stakes, and we hope you will respond with a fair amount of detail, and get involed in the thread. Surely it wont take 10% of the effort you have put into all this crap. Help us get better at poker. I really think your contributions should be more strategy related. I'll put up my post shortly and I really hope you come and give us your thoughts so we can all improve our games.

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POTD

[La Brujita]

I would love to see him post in that forum as well. My blind play is awful that would be fantastic to discuss.

[Steve Giufre]

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Yes sir.

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Thanks. Not that it is going to make you hate me any less, but there isnt anybody else I would rather see elaborate on this or anything else having to do with poker. I'm gonna take a little while to decide exactly what to ask. Seriously thanks a lot.

[Steve Giufre]

Thanks again for agreeing to respond. No rush, I look forward to you helping us out.

[HiatusOver]

Come on David we need some help over in Mid-High...my blinds are getting misplayed at a 250 hands per hour rate!!!

[Hold'me]

Steve Giufre, excellent post if I may say so myself. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]