Set problem...

Garland · #1 04-29-2005, 07:43 PM

The main villian in this hand (UTG+2) is a fairly tight player:

24.44% VP$IP, PF Raise % = 2.22.

However it's only 44 hands worth of data. He also seems to underbet a lot.

It appears the other player (UTG+1) calling is a chaser, but short-stacked.

What would you do after the following sequence?

All comments appreciated.

Thanks,

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed) converter

MP1 ($211)
MP2 ($670.80)
MP3 ($611.40)
Garland ($459.90)
Button ($337)
SB ($206.70)
BB ($324)
UTG ($120.10)
UTG+1 ($125.10)
UTG+2 ($488.60)

Preflop: Garland is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG+1 calls $4, UTG+2 calls $4, 3 folds, Garland calls $4, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Garland checks.

Turn: ($18) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets $15, Garland raises to $40, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $40, UTG+2 raises to $65, Garland ????

lennytheduck · #2 04-29-2005, 07:59 PM

Ack, this is a gross spot to be in.

1. Bet the flop with bottom set.
2. I think you can put UTG+1 on some sort of drawing hand, considering his style from your previous observations and his cold call.
3. Would UTG+2 limp TT? Is he a TAP in general?

Overall, I have a hard time raising in this spot. You certainly don't want to fold, and calling doesn't seem like the best thing either, but I think it is best. Try to get to showdown cheap on the river. If a diamond or a 5 hits and you see action from UTG+1, you have an easy fold.

Hope it worked out.

edge · #3 04-29-2005, 08:20 PM

I'd be much more concerned with a 7 or 2 than a 5. Why did you check the flop last to act? Betting there isn't giving your hand away at all, and it builds the pot if anyone calls.

iceman5 · #4 04-29-2005, 09:22 PM

I reraise to $200 straight.

Sobolous · #5 04-29-2005, 09:28 PM

i cant fathom the check on the flop in a 4 way pot. i'd rather bet out and take a small pot here than give a free card that builds the pot for someone else.

youngin20 · #6 04-29-2005, 09:41 PM

call. then dump it on the river if you dont fill up. i feel like this is a math problem. he basically is giving you pot odds if you are behind, and i dont see him betting huge on ther river. there is a bit of money in the pot, and its three way. i dont see UTG folding, so...put that money in there. reraising will just get you reraised again..i think

iceman5 · #7 04-29-2005, 09:50 PM

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call. then dump it on the river if you dont fill up. i feel like this is a math problem. he basically is giving you pot odds if you are behind, and i dont see him betting huge on ther river. there is a bit of money in the pot, and its three way. i dont see UTG folding, so...put that money in there. reraising will just get you reraised again..i think

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You must be kidding. You think villain has 52?

flawless_victory · #8 04-29-2005, 10:07 PM

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call. then dump it on the river if you dont fill up. i feel like this is a math problem. he basically is giving you pot odds if you are behind, and i dont see him betting huge on ther river. there is a bit of money in the pot, and its three way. i dont see UTG folding, so...put that money in there. reraising will just get you reraised again..i think

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You must be kidding. You think villain has 52?

[/ QUOTE ]no... 57. or 33. i would just call.

iceman5 · #9 04-29-2005, 10:23 PM

Hmmm, I didnt see it was still a 3 way pot here. That changes things quite a bit.

creedofhubris · #10 04-30-2005, 05:40 AM

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The main villian in this hand (UTG+2) is a fairly tight player:

24.44% VP$IP, PF Raise % = 2.22.

However it's only 44 hands worth of data. He also seems to underbet a lot.

It appears the other player (UTG+1) calling is a chaser, but short-stacked.

What would you do after the following sequence?

All comments appreciated.

Thanks,

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed) converter

MP1 ($211)
MP2 ($670.80)
MP3 ($611.40)
Garland ($459.90)
Button ($337)
SB ($206.70)
BB ($324)
UTG ($120.10)
UTG+1 ($125.10)
UTG+2 ($488.60)

Preflop: Garland is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG+1 calls $4, UTG+2 calls $4, 3 folds, Garland calls $4, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Garland checks.

Turn: ($18) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets $15, Garland raises to $40, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $40, UTG+2 raises to $65, Garland ????

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I think going into calldown mode is best.

He could be on fool's-AA or 33, but beyond that I don't see what you beat. Still, the pot odds he's laying you can't be beat.