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Old 08-27-2005, 02:07 PM
smarterthanyoda smarterthanyoda is offline
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

Thanks for the quick answer.

I guess I was wrong. What you say makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:39 PM
benfranklin benfranklin is offline
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

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What you say makes sense.

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It doesn't make a bit of sense.

We are going to play a game, but the rules are secret??? Because I'm too freakin' stupid to understand them??? And I suppose if you break a rule you get put on double-secret probation? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Does it say in the rules that I can't see the rules?? I want to see that in the rules. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

My local cardroom is Canterbury Park. I believe the rules are available in the cardroom, although I have never asked. The rules are published on their web site. They also have a detailed glossary in case of any confusion as to the meaning of basic English. Failure to provide the rules is unfair and insulting to players. It's also a cop-out and cover-up for lazy, incompetent, insecure floormen. If a floorman knows his job, he should have no problem discussing the rules with a player who has read the rules.
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

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What you say makes sense.

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It doesn't make a bit of sense.

We are going to play a game, but the rules are secret??? Because I'm too freakin' stupid to understand them??? And I suppose if you break a rule you get put on double-secret probation? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Does it say in the rules that I can't see the rules?? I want to see that in the rules. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

My local cardroom is Canterbury Park. I believe the rules are available in the cardroom, although I have never asked. The rules are published on their web site. They also have a detailed glossary in case of any confusion as to the meaning of basic English. Failure to provide the rules is unfair and insulting to players. It's also a cop-out and cover-up for lazy, incompetent, insecure floormen. If a floorman knows his job, he should have no problem discussing the rules with a player who has read the rules.

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They don't have a list of rules posted on the wall?

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Old 08-27-2005, 03:55 PM
Edge34 Edge34 is offline
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

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What you say makes sense.

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It doesn't make a bit of sense.

We are going to play a game, but the rules are secret??? Because I'm too freakin' stupid to understand them??? And I suppose if you break a rule you get put on double-secret probation? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Does it say in the rules that I can't see the rules?? I want to see that in the rules. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

My local cardroom is Canterbury Park. I believe the rules are available in the cardroom, although I have never asked. The rules are published on their web site. They also have a detailed glossary in case of any confusion as to the meaning of basic English. Failure to provide the rules is unfair and insulting to players. It's also a cop-out and cover-up for lazy, incompetent, insecure floormen. If a floorman knows his job, he should have no problem discussing the rules with a player who has read the rules.

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They don't have a list of rules posted on the wall?

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They do in at least one place, I think its up on the front wall, behind the board and by the cage. I think there's another one back by the Casino Games room by the tables they normally spread the 30/60 at.
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

SOME rules posted on the wall is not the same as a more detailed copy of the rules that is available to everyone.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:29 PM
bernie bernie is offline
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SOME rules posted on the wall is not the same as a more detailed copy of the rules that is available to everyone.

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Those rules should suffice. Especially regarding the IWTSTH rule. Again, way too much airtime for that rule. Better things to worry about.

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Old 08-27-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

amusingly.....it took me a little while to figure out what you meant by IWTSTH rule. (finally figured it out).
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Old 08-28-2005, 12:08 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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SOME rules posted on the wall is not the same as a more detailed copy of the rules that is available to everyone.

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I was impressed when I visited the Commerce, they provide a rather thick rule pamphlet at the Concierge desk. I've never seen the rules detailed like this before within a room.

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Old 08-27-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

How am I supposed to know the rules if I can't see them.

There are probably several rules that I would have been likely to have broken when I was a newbie if it hadn't been up to me to just sit there and guess.

I see people breaking the string-bet rule all the freaking time just because they don't know what it is.
For quite awhile I would never never have even known what 'protect your cards' meant. I only started playing a couple years ago....and when I first started I would have just assumed that it ONLY meant that I should make sure that nobody is trying to peak over my shoulder and look at them.


Protect my action: Would have had zero idea what that meant.

Hell, I didn't even know you had to go to the desk to ask what games were open. I just assumed you could walk right in and sit down at any table (I did this once...seriously).

I have to wait for the dealer to push me the pot?
Am I allowed to get up to leave to go to the bathroom or will I lose my seat?
I'm not allowed to take my own chips off the table? What's up with that?

Seriously...there are a LOT of new players out there who don't even know the basics.

Why would we want to keep it all a mystery?
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:50 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

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Why would we want to keep it all a mystery?

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"A fouled hand may be declared dead"
"Cards that touch the muck are fouled"

Many people that are unfamiliar with poker jump to the conclusion "cards that touch the muck are dead." Does reading the above two rules make it more or less likely that someone will jump to the false conclusion that touching the muck kills a hand?
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