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Old 09-07-2005, 11:36 PM
Jack of Arcades Jack of Arcades is offline
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Excellent manager? There are two excellent managers in the game: Bobby Cox and TLR.

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TLR is mediocre at best. I'll leave it for Andy to elaborate on my behalf. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Well, with regards to in-game tactics even Bobby Cox makes me go WTF sometimes.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:29 AM
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I just want to know why the hell they have a guy that can't hit enough to play catcher often starting at 1B.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:30 AM
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The whole aborted Unit acquisition was an embarassment for the organization and ripped out the core of a team that had legitimate hopes of winning the NL and turned them into a doormat for the Cardinals. If you are going to gut your pen and trade the heart and soul of your team, you damn well better have the 2nd part of the deal (Unit) locked up. He didn't. That was unforgiveable.

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The Dodgers were never serious contenders for the Big Unit anyway. Embarassment? What are you talking about? Looking at the trade in isolation, it was a very good trade, they got a young #2 starter for an overrated catcher (heart and soul? who the hell are you, Bill Plashcke? The Dodgers did make the playoffs you know.) and an over valued bullpen righty (who was conveniently replaced by the fireballing Brazoban). If Choi played more (he has an .800 OPS, something 2/3rds our whole team doesn't have), this deal would look great.

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And I don't care what he's done this year, giving 4 years at nearly 10 million per to a 32 year old starter whose ERA had gone from 2.5 to 3.5 to 4.5 to 5.5 in the previous 4 years is borderline retarded and the mark of a GM who didn't plan adequately enough and was forced to take the last available guy because he felt he needed a name.

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I don't like this move either, but you are exaggerating. This is a sinkerballer pitcher going into Dodger Stadium, with Cesar Izturis in the 6-hole, into a placid NL West division, without much pressure on him. A 3.80-4.00 ERA with 200 gaurenteed innings is value, which is why he didn't give a statistically superior pitcher like Odalis more money than he gave Lowe. Lowe is pitching well despite an uncharacteristic 26 home runs allowed. I expect him to improve.

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And just for good measure, in case last year's trade debacle didn't convince you that he doesn't understand the importance of chemistry in the clubhouse, he signs the human redneck hate machine Jeff Kent, and LO AND BEHOLD, Kent has been involved in clubhouse mayhem. Who coulda seen that one coming?

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Kent CRIED when he came here. He WANTED to be a Dodger. He was trying to fire up the team earlier in the season after the first losing skid. If anything, Milton Bradley was most likely the one out of line. This is the same guy who recently had an abuse debacle with his pregnant wife, I've pretty much given up on this guy!

I won't address how HORRIFYINGLY WRONG you are about Tracy's "excellence" a manager. Everyone on the scout.com Dodgers board freakin hates him. He NEVER plays Choi! He doesn't regularly start Antonio Perez, who has a .317 BA and .375 OBP! He's COMPLETELY IN LOVE with the idea that all lefties should be pitched to by lefty specialists, even if the lefty is Tom "my ERA against lefties is the same as Barry Bonds hat size" Martin. He's STILL playing the GOD-AWFUL Jason Phillips! He often has the absolutely worst bunters (and best hitters) bunting, including Milton Bradley, a middle of the order hitter who had like 5 pop-up outs in bunting situations last year.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:31 AM
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Last night he batted clean-up, and in a tough situation in the 8th inning, they pinch-hit for him. When was the last time you saw your starting clean-up hitter, absent an injury, pinch hit for in teh 8th inning?
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:33 AM
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"heart and soul?"

I know Clarkmeister believes in heart. I'm not sure about soul.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:45 AM
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Well, the Yankees planned and came up with Randy Johnson Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright: one guy who'll be 42 this week, and two guys who have had one good year each. It's not like there was a plethora of great young pitchers available last year.

Drew has a lifetime OPS of .907. and is only 29. While he has had more than his share of injuries, he did score 118 runs and walk 118 times last year and it wouldn't be unreasonable to presume that he was coming into his prime. He still might.

Lowe did pitch well at the end of last year, especially, as you and I unfortunately know, in the post-season.

Kent has an OPS of .914 this year and has carried the team on his back (carried them to where, I know). I'm not as much in a believer in the importance of clubhouse harmony to winning as most, but Milton Bradley is certifiable and won't be in the HOF.

Trading Mota didn't gut the pen (losing Gagne did) and LoDuca was popular with the fans but not with the pitching staff.

So while I might not accord genius status to DePodesta, I don't see dufus status as being deserved either. Saenz was a good pick-up and the team was off to a terrific start before the plague of injuries gutted the roster.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:51 AM
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DePodesta is already a good general manager, and he will get better. The Dodgers are a good bet to win the west more than any other team in the next 10 years, imo.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:58 AM
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Can't disagree there. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

If DePodesta simply keeps Logan White around, that alone makes him a good GM.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:59 AM
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He's been in the bigs like 5 years and played about 2 of them. At this rate, he's unlikely to reach his prime prior to retirement.
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:39 AM
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coming into his prime.

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He's been in the bigs like 5 years and played about 2 of them. At this rate, he's unlikely to reach his prime prior to retirement.

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What? He's got over 400 PAs in 5 years. This'll only be the second time in his career he doesn't make 100 games.
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