difficult jj hand out of position and deep

[AZK]

UB 10-25, I have 7k, villain has about the same. We have been going at it for hours, first a hu grudge match where he got lucky in a few but I maintained. Now we are 6 handed and I've been getting the better of him. He is getting aggravated. One limp and he raises pot on button. I call with JJ in SB.

Flop AQ6 two tone, (200ish)

I lead for pot, villain calls.

Turn Jo

I check/call 400

River Ao

Action???????????????? Pot is about 1.5k we have about 6k left.

[psyduck]

lead for pot call all-in?

[Allinlife]

I don't understand why you check-called turn...woulnd't it better to keep betting or check raise?

given how it's played, I think you need to check-call the river as well...

[AZK]

He had a habit of taking the pot away on the turn, so I thought I'd check/call. I feel like a cr let's him off way too easy if he is just doing this with air, which he had somewhat of a tendency to do when we were playing hu. If I lead, and he called what would your default river play be?

[Allinlife]

default play would be to bet the pot. I'm not sure what I'd do againt a raise though...I'm afraid to say but it may be correct to fold to a raise on the river, against most sane players at least.

I think the problem with 'punishing' his turn-take away by check-calling is simply that you fail to build a big pot with a monster hand especially being OOP with alot of potential action-killer cards to come on river. play big hands for big moneyzz..not some bluff inducer (unless stack size allows you to let him bluff off his stack).

[Howard Treesong]

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default play would be to bet the pot. I'm not sure what I'd do againt a raise though...I'm afraid to say but it may be correct to fold to a raise on the river, against most sane players at least.

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If OP leads the river with a pot-sized bet and gets popped, I think he has to call. I don't know how Villain has enough information to isolate OP to JJ or A with a paired kicker; if that's right, then Villain's raising range includes hands like AK and AT that are simply trips, fair kicker. If that's true, then a call is warranted on the river.

If OP checks the river and Villain leads small (half the pot or under), a c/r tripling the bet seems OK to me: Villain probably has to call with any A. If he responds by pushing, he expects to get called and OP may have to muck it. That's a tough laydown with with something like the seventh nuts; I'm not sure I'm capable of that HU without a really good read on Villain.

My inclination would be to lead the river and call any raise.

[coltrane]

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He had a habit of taking the pot away on the turn, so I thought I'd check/call. I feel like a cr let's him off way too easy if he is just doing this with air, which he had somewhat of a tendency to do when we were playing hu. If I lead, and he called what would your default river play be?

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if what you're saying is true, why would you do anything other than check the river?.....if I had led the turn, I'd lead the river - but if air is a big part of his range, no point in betting.....if he has an ace he's not likely checking the river anyway after you checked twice and he's pissed off at you.....the only UNLESS here is, if you think he's the type to try a big bluff-raise, I might consider a weak lead on the river.....

[flawless_victory]

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lead for pot call all-in?

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if u get it allin here, yikes... you are gonna be [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[BobboFitos]

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[edge]

Betting the turn would have made it easier to find out if he had an A. I guess you should bet pot on the river and I'm not sure what to do if he pushes.