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2 folds - right or wrong
These 2 hands were dealt consequtively. Should I have played either or both of these. Party 20+2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter CO (t1175) jhkues (t1790) SB (t805) BB (t515) UTG (t1460) UTG+1 (t665) MP1 (t515) MP2 (t1075) Preflop: jhkues is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>. --> Converter does not seem to be working --> CO is all-In [1175] --> I Fold Final Pot: t150 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter MP2 (t1325) jhkues (t1790) Button (t755) SB (t415) BB (t1460) UTG (t665) UTG+1 (t515) MP1 (t1075) Preflop: jhkues is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, jhkues calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks. Flop: (t350) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t400</font>, jhkues folds, BB folds. Final Pot: t950 |
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
Hand 1 is an obvious fold. If you want to play aggressive, raise aggressive, don't call aggressively! lol!
Hand 2, why fold? Raiser is screaming A-x to me. If you think he has an overpair, you never should have called PF, as you're not getting sufficient odds to flop a set. |
#3
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
Hornacek's post is dead on.
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
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Hand 2, why fold? Raiser is screaming A-x to me. If you think he has an overpair, you never should have called PF, as you're not getting sufficient odds to flop a set. [/ QUOTE ] He's getting implied odds to flop a set. Also, there's no shame in folding given new information--"playing consistently" is not a +EV concept. First hand is an easy fold. I'm not sure about the second. |
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
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Hand 2, Raiser is screaming A-x to me. [/ QUOTE ] What? How do you hear this. Limping with Ax is more likely than limping with a pair? And now he plays back at BB for half his own stack with nada? Or does he have exactly A5? I don't get it... |
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
What the hell kinda of new information is given? It seems like its a $6 - $33 tourney, so I'd push Hand 2 in those tnys any time. Don't play scared. Surprisingly, your opponents don't hold the nuts every hand.
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
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What the hell kinda of new information is given? It seems like its a $6 - $33 tourney, so I'd push Hand 2 in those tnys any time. Don't play scared. Surprisingly, your opponents don't hold the nuts every hand. [/ QUOTE ] The new information reference was just a general reply to your advice. In this hand, I think a push is correct. But, in general, if you call on one street thinking your hand is good, that does not require that you call on the next street if a blank falls. |
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
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[ QUOTE ] Hand 2, Raiser is screaming A-x to me. [/ QUOTE ] What? How do you hear this. Limping with Ax is more likely than limping with a pair? And now he plays back at BB for half his own stack with nada? Or does he have exactly A5? I don't get it... [/ QUOTE ] I haven't played 22s in while, so I'm not really sure. At higher levels, this min raise is really scary...and I'd be concerned about 22-55, 77-TT. Ax? Sure, it's possible, but I don't see why he'd raise with that, unless he had A4. I think folding is ok, depending on your opinion on the villian. Of course, the preflop limp is awful. I'd probably just push preflop. |
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
Like Phil said, the min-raise does look fishy. It seems to me more of a set then A-X. I think you can wait for a better spot then gamble on an overpair and gutshot straight draw, when faced with a bet and raise for 1/2 your stack.
But it would be nice if reads were given, its very read dependant. |
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Re: 2 folds - right or wrong
1 - groovey
2 - fold or push PF. pushing over the limper sells the aggression better to the blinds - read dependant. fold is groovey too. can't limp this stuff at this level of blinds, with your stack. |
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