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Old 08-07-2005, 06:28 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

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Drops it - fast.

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Look at my pot odds. This isn't nearly that obvious.

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If this were a cash game you would obviously call here. Since you need somewhat better odds to make this a +EV call, you are probably taking slightly the worst of it right now. However, since you can probably use these chips (if you win) to create bigger edges down the road, I feel like it is a call. Having the big stack here is worth a lot, and taking a small -EV race to obtain it is well worth it IMO.

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Old 08-07-2005, 06:23 PM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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I think it is a call. getting over 2-1 with KQ I think is ok, having him covered also helps since you can still rebuild if you lose the hand.
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Old 08-07-2005, 06:30 PM
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Call. I think if you fold here you are sending a bad image to the rest of your table and your opponent.

If you are not willing to call this I probably would fold preflop.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:10 PM
Erik Blazynski Erik Blazynski is offline
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

I play the lower limits, 11 and 22, and I have to say that there are very few players that are paying attention, maybe about 3 of the 9 players. half of them are playing other games. Table image only doesn't play as much as it does in a live game.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:12 PM
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It is those 3 out of the 9 you have to be worried about [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

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I play the lower limits, 11 and 22, and I have to say that there are very few players that are paying attention, maybe about 3 of the 9 players. half of them are playing other games. Table image only doesn't play as much as it does in a live game.

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I had played with this villian before, they were one of the ones paying attention. And KQo is not at the very bottom of my range here.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

fold preflop if you are not willing to make this call.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:50 PM
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fold preflop if you are not willing to make this call.

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What's wrong with being able to get away when a villain wakes up with what is most likely to be a dominant hand?
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Old 08-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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Because if you fold here you are showing that you are willing to fold a hand from a steal position after raising and being pushed back at. If you fold here you can expect that (and while this may not be true against complete donks) that they will begin playing back at you. You are getting 2.21:1 pot odds, if you are not willing to call here against villain's range, what exactly are you waiting for?

We are gambling here.
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Old 08-07-2005, 10:30 PM
Tony Corbett Tony Corbett is offline
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

If the general feeling is that the pot odds are about right for the call then it's a neutral situation so calling or folding are equally vaild.

Personally I'd fold in this spot because not all chips were created equal, your're risking chips that take you below average stack in whats basically a gamble. I like to think that I have enough of an edge that I try to avoid pure gambles as much as possible.

As for the image argument for calling, fine I only fold once in this spot if someone thinks they can resteal great, next time I'm calling and hopefully they've dropped their resteal standards.
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