Big stack, out of position

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t95002)
MP1 (t31625)
MP2 (t197332)
CO (t85886)
Button (t130492)
Hero (t195572)
BB (t60614)
UTG (t66837)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t16000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t16000, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero...

Opening raiser has not been out of line at all. Caller is loose.

One of the weaker areas of my game is how to play a big stack (I am top 10 in chips out of 100). What's the concept here? Is a squeeze play automatic, or is there too much chance of the opener having a real hand?

[GoldenHorde]

I think re-raising is just asking for trouble out of the SB with AQ. I would call and lead any A or Q flop if UTG+1 is interested in the pot im done. If MP2 is interested im probabaly gonna try to extract value if he is very loose.

[Exitonly]

I'd squeeze w/ position, or if the stacks were shorter so that i could go allin. but in this case, i just call and play the flop.

[Jason Strasser]

Man probably just fold this unless you really think UTG can make a fold here with many hands. Keep in mind the loose call from the stack in MP really gives the UTG player more of a reason to not let go of a 77 type hand in this spot. I'm pretty sure the better play here is to fold.

-Jason

[Exitonly]

w/ 4:1 odds? why can't you call and see a flop??

[Jason Strasser]

Shrug.


Its the classic reason that if you flop top pair you wont get paid off. But if you flop top pair and get a lot of action you are probably behind. Plus you act out of position so you aren't going to be able to win this pot very often without flopping a pair.

-Jason

I probably call, but I don't think pushing is as bad as some may think.

If we push here, UTG + 1 basically calls with any two, and MP2's folding almost all hands that he played this way with (If this isn't the case, pushing is horrible, but I think it's often the case). Thus, pushing costs us 63k to win 67k + 9k + 18k = 94k. We're getting almost 1.5:1 with AQ preflop.

However, I think calling's better.

I'm unsure of plan on the flop. UTG+1 is close to committed at this point, so I may check if I make top pair. Probably I just lead top pair, check/fold a whiff and play a draw by pure pot odds.

[locutus2002]

Hero pushes.

Hero is probably ahead of UTG range of hands.

Hero is definitely ahead of big stacks range.

I don't see how MP2 can call this. MP2 is unlikely to be t be trapping with a big hand because he has a big stack to protect and the hand could be 3-5 ways given the small initial raise.

There's about ~T50,000 in the pot, go get it.

[Petteri]

I think this is fold. Your hand is not really strong against raise and you are out of position. It is better to avoid other big stacks when you have big stack.

If you choose to play, you should raise all-in so your positional disadvantage does not matter. But I do not think it is good idea against 2 other players in raised pot, while MP2 has big stack.

[Exitonly]

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Hero is probably ahead of UTG range of hands.

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What range of hands are you putting an UTG raiser on?

even vs a not too tight range [99+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+] hero is 40%.