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Old 11-07-2005, 03:38 AM
flyingmoose flyingmoose is offline
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Default Re: Slow play set on a dangerous flop?

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Generally you want to have a couple people limp in before you call with a small pair. Small pairs do better when you flop a set with many people in the pot, or when you are heads-up.

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Of course I'd prefer a couple of limpers, but if the people behind me haven't been raising a lot, I'll call. If it gets raised to 60 I'll stay, any more would be very opponent dependent. If I make my set I'm probably going to take a lot of chips from somebody, and I may be able to take down the pot without a set.

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The problem is that in level 2, you only have implied odds for a set against the other huge stacks. To play 55 for set value against 25bb (T750) stacks, you have to stack someone about 1/3 of the time you flop your set -- and even at the lower stakes they're just not that bad.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: Slow play set on a dangerous flop?

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The problem is that in level 2, you only have implied odds for a set against the other huge stacks. To play 55 for set value against 25bb (T750) stacks, you have to stack someone about 1/3 of the time you flop your set -- and even at the lower stakes they're just not that bad.

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So if I get up against BB (who has 1700) and SB, I'm in position throughout the hand, and I can probably just take it down with a bet if it looks like they missed.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:50 AM
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The problem is that in level 2, you only have implied odds for a set against the other huge stacks. To play 55 for set value against 25bb (T750) stacks, you have to stack someone about 1/3 of the time you flop your set -- and even at the lower stakes they're just not that bad.

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So if I get up against BB (who has 1700) and SB, I'm in position throughout the hand, and I can probably just take it down with a bet if it looks like they missed.

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If you know for a fact that nobody's going to raise the pot after you and you know for a fact you can take the pot down with a bet on the flop, you should limp any 2, shouldn't you?
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:11 AM
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If you know for a fact that nobody's going to raise the pot after you and you know for a fact you can take the pot down with a bet on the flop, you should limp any 2, shouldn't you?

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You don't know any such thing for a fact, but sometimes it is more likely than others. One size does not fit all. There are times you should limp with any two, but this is not one of them.
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