Maybe a simple turn decision?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

Is this turn a simple decision?

5 handed 30/60 party game

game is brand spanking new with brand spanking new players.

utg raises. button coldcalls. sb calls. i call in the bb with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

sb checks. i check. utg bets. button calls. sb folds. i call.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check intending to checkraise. utg bets. Button raises.

What are my choices?

[Steve Giufre]

How about 3 bet and punch monitor if 4 bet?

[Klepton]

it's not a fold. it's a choice between calling and 3-betting

UTG leading out twice doesn't mean that he actually has anything

if you 3-bet, and get 4-bet, you can't fold, and still have to call 2 more bets.

against an unknown, i call and lead any non-heart river.

[stoxtrader]

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it's not a fold. it's a choice between calling and 3-betting

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I love klepton.

I like a call. river action depends on a lot of things.

3-bet.

[steveyz]

how many BBs would it be to get a new monitor?

[obi---one]

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How about 3 bet and punch monitor if 4 bet?

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I prefer, three bet and throw monitor in pool if four bet, if that option is available

[DpR]

I like the three bet here too. There is good value in it, you have outs if behind.

[Lawrence Ng]

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Is this turn a simple decision?

5 handed 30/60 party game

game is brand spanking new with brand spanking new players.

utg raises. button coldcalls. sb calls. i call in the bb with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

sb checks. i check. utg bets. button calls. sb folds. i call.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check intending to checkraise. utg bets. Button raises.

What are my choices?

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Heya CDC,

I know it's a brand spanking new game with new players, but given your typical 30/60 Party aggro lineup in a SH situation like this what range of hands do you put your opponents on?

Since this is a new game, we can err on a bit more of the conservative side right? So if UTG raises, say AK-AJ maybe, big pocket pair AA-99.

Now when button just cold calls we know he doesn't have QQ, could have KQ, maybe AQ if he's a bit passive. 99 would most likely have 3-bet to get rid of the blinds. 55 is definitely a possibility, less so with a 5 in your hand of course.

The math gets a little complicated here since you are up against 2 opponents after you act if you call/raise. If your up against an overpair and a flush draw then you are just a slight under 2:1 favorite at this point. If you are behind to 99, 77, 55 you are pretty much fooked.

I'd probably go more with my pre-flop read on this play and 3-bet believing that two pair is good here and very likely you are up against an overpair and Qx.

Lawrence

[tpir90036]

Semi-hijack re: the flop peel. Are you peeling there if the board is rainbow but you don't have the backdoor clubs? If it's two-toned with no clubs? I am starting to wonder if I am too tight with my flop non-peels.

-tpir