TT versus unknown

#1 12-21-2005, 04:30 PM

Gee don't you hate it when someone says "villian = unknown"? Well sorry, he is new to the table -- I think this is his first hand, so the only thing I know about him is that he is smart enough to wait for the blinds.

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Preflop: Haggis is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Haggis raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Haggis bets, BB raises, Haggis 3-bets, BB caps, Haggis calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Haggis calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Haggis calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Just wondering if this is standard for you guys?

silkyslim · #2 12-21-2005, 04:33 PM

ie been reading how good is your limit hold em and he authr would probably tell you to call the raise and donk the turn on a blank. just for thought.........

#3 12-21-2005, 04:40 PM

I'm out of position for a donk on the turn -- do you mean raise?

MicK412 · #4 12-21-2005, 04:43 PM

I think your line is fine. It's not uncommon for BB to turn up a busted flush in this situation. Sometimes I might raise the turn though, depends on how well I know my opponent.

silkyslim · #5 12-21-2005, 04:43 PM

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I'm out of position for a donk on the turn -- do you mean raise?

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im a tardo. yeah you can wait to raise and fold to a 3-bet. (note this is not a free showdown raise, there is some confusion on this forum) If he has a 6 he most likely 3-bet. he could be raising a 2, a flush draw, 2 overs, a pocket pair, or a 6 on the flop. i d wait for the big bets and a non [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn and raise.

#6 12-21-2005, 04:49 PM

My only concern about the turn raise/fold line is the idea that I will get a worse hand that would pay me another bet on fifth street to fold. I can understand this on the river, when I don't mind a worse hand folding as much.

silkyslim · #7 12-21-2005, 04:55 PM

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My only concern about the turn raise/fold line is the idea that I will get a worse hand that would pay me another bet on fifth street to fold. I can understand this on the river, when I don't mind a worse hand folding as much.

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well that a good concern, try it on the river then.

#8 12-21-2005, 06:08 PM

This is how I would have played it.

Then again, lately my blind battles have been against LAGs who suddenly have good hands (better than mine) that they raised as what looked like a blind steal, instead of the normal crap they've been caught raising with before. So, I've tried to back off my aggession a bit..