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Old 11-29-2005, 01:50 PM
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Default observed hand- postflop coinflip

I was the SB in this hand with J3o, but there was some interesting discussion after this hand:
live $10 blinds, effective stacks around 2200. Two limpers to the button, who makes it $60. I fold my shi-ite, BB reraises to $200. Limpers fold, button calls quickly. BB and Button are both solid TAGs.

Flop comes down 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB bets out 300 reasonably quickly, Button thinks for about 15 seconds and pushes, BB does some mental arithmetic, calls and flips over A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], button shows T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Button it surprised that BB called- he says he wasn't getting odds to draw against a boat...I thought it was an easy call, since he's easily getting odds to draw against a straight that's not of diamonds, twopair, overpair, etc. Your thoughts?
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:41 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: observed hand- postflop coinflip

seems standard, probably just idiots playing live poker "odds to draw against boat"-that statement beyond ridiculous since no boat possibility and you can't draw out vs a boat (except 1 outer)

anyways, he had odds to draw against anything of villain's likely holdings
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:16 PM
slickpoppa slickpoppa is offline
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Default Re: observed hand- postflop coinflip

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seems standard, probably just idiots playing live poker "odds to draw against boat"-that statement beyond ridiculous since no boat possibility and you can't draw out vs a boat (except 1 outer)

anyways, he had odds to draw against anything of villain's likely holdings

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Obviously he meant that he didnt have the odds to draw against a set. BB is getting 2760/1700 = 1.62:1 on a call, but if the button has a set, he needs 2:1 to call. Since the button's range is probably greater than just sets, he probably has the odds to cal, but its close.
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:23 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: observed hand- postflop coinflip

If he calls T9s for 16BBs, IMO he has nothing to complain about, he's gamboooollling himself.
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