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Old 02-26-2005, 11:59 AM
spoohunter spoohunter is offline
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Default Which hand would you prefer?

While dual tabling a few mid limit stars games I observed a hand, which, on the river, with the same card, made both the straight and the flush. The straight for QJo and the flush for 42s. Now, I naturally guffawed (as I usually do when I see an inferior hand beat a superior hand) when it dawned upon me that QJo was playing from UTG+1 and 42s was playing from the button.

So, which would you prefer? QJo from UTG+1, or 42s from the button?
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Old 02-26-2005, 12:08 PM
HopeydaFish HopeydaFish is offline
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

99.9% of the time I wouldn't play either hand in those positions.

That being said, I'd prefer the 42s simply because you have better position.
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Old 02-26-2005, 12:29 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

terrible question. give me more details please. how many limpers to me with 42s on the button? what type of table is it?
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Old 02-26-2005, 01:30 PM
HopeydaFish HopeydaFish is offline
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

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terrible question. give me more details please. how many limpers to me with 42s on the button? what type of table is it?

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Yeah, I assumed the OP had a few callers between UTG+1 and the button. But this might not be the case. If it was heads-up I'd prefer the QJ, of course...but if 42s was enough for a call on the button, there must have been some callers before him -- either that or the guy is a maniac.
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:04 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

I think we have enough information here, actually. I will never play QJo from early position in a full game. I will sometimes limp in late with 42s.
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

I'll take either one and fold it.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

42s from the button.

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Old 02-28-2005, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

Easily 42s from the button. Then again in a full game I don't really even consider playing QJo UTG, but on the button with a bunch of awful callers 42s could possibly be profitable.

Oh and 42s open-raised from the button is better than just about anything you could do with QJo UTG.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

I would most likely fold both, but if you put a gun to my head and force me to pick one here is my logic for taking one over the other:

I'd rather have 4-2s from the button than Q-Jo from UTG+1. Immediately you have the advantage of position with 4-2s. There is a good chance your hand is not dominated when playing 4-2s where Q-Jo is very likely to dominated by a wide range of hands. Also, it is possible if you hit top pair you can get yourself in trouble. With 4-2s if you hit the flop hard this is the type of hand you can crack someone stack with its trickiness value, and if you miss the flop its easy to dump.
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Which hand would you prefer?

42s on the button. Every time. Limit or no limit.

QJo is garbage and should be dumped in a full game from early position. I would love to see the QJo player berate the guy with 42s, who is actually making a better play by getting in there on the button with that hand, assuming other people lipmed and the pot is multi-way.
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